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Dv8thwonder said:
RedPikmin95 said:

(1) Bayonetta 2 is releasing is releasing mid January.

(2) At E3, Nintendo shows off multiplayer title running on 4 gamepads. 

(3) Gamepad is to be packed in with Mario Kart 8.

(1) Why the hell do you actually think that Bayonetta 2 will be already released in January??! Is this not a bit TOO early? Apart from the E3 Trailer we haven't seen anything of this game yet! Otherwise there must be definitely a November Direct about 2014 games or so...well, we'll see...

(2) Really?? Nintendo confirmed it will only support 2 gamepad, so please don't exaggerate...give me a reason why the Wii U should suddenly support 4 ones... I think 2 are okay and provide enough potential...

(3) Hm, if they plan to implement a 6-player-mode, it could be possible. But didn't they already confirm it will be only up to 4 player? Ah, there it is: http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-only-confirming-4-player-local-multiplayer-for-mario-kart-8/ Anyway, why should they pack in the Gamepad just with Mario Kart 8 ?


(1) Because outside of Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze in Feb and Mario Kart 8 slated for somewhere in Q1, most likely March, there is nothing slated for January and Nintendo needs to keep up the sales momentum post- holiday.

(2) Wii Unity has Eyefinity tech built in. That is all.

(3) I never said it would support 6 players. Please point out where in my statement I did make such a claim.


(1) Well, usually there will be hardly released any games in January. It's a sort of "post holiday break".

(2) Mh, can you explain me quickly what this Eyefinity tech is? And where's the evidence it has this tech built in? Someone around here, I think it was Dr.Eisdrachenjäger, posted a link (I think it was this one: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5699497) to an individual post from a user named eyeofcore where he tried to explain the Wii U's hardware. And I think he mentioned something with this Eyefinity...but he also could be wrong since he posted his thoughts in a high-tech-forum where almost no one believed him...

(3) Ok, sorry, but where's otherwise the sense in packing in a gamepad with of all things Mario Kart ??? Why do you think with Mario Kart?



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Dv8thwonder said:
Seece said:
Dv8thwonder said:
@Seece Satire? Uh, no.

Sony themselves has said they will be going 3rd party.   http://www.cio.com/article/716714/Sony_Game_Chief_Third_party_Playstation_Consoles_a_Possibility   I never said in my post when.

They will sell well enough during the holidays but will fall once all the delays hit. And they will come.

That leads me to say that yes, the 'enthusiast' gamer will flock to the Wii Unity eventually once EA and other large devs/pubs are forced to create software because the install base of the Wii Unity will be too great to ignore.

The Wii Unity will be a success. Not a matter of if but when. And that when is soon enough.

The Wii Unity is confusing, how?

Using Mario Kart and Smash Bros. as proof of your argument is laughable. If they play games as much as the next 'enthusiast' gamer it wouldn't matter what console it was on. If its a great people will play it.

The console fanboy nonsense has got to stop. You speak for yourself and you alone.


LOL they're talking about hardware, that doesn't mean they're going or ever will go third party and put their software on MS and Nintendo systems, dude wth.

What delays? All I see right now is Nintendo deaying stuff ...

I'm sorry but did EA and the likes abandon the PS360 when the Wii was selling double what they were combined and breaking records left right and center? No it didn't. You still don't explain why 'enthusiast gamers' will flock to WiiU. Like I already explained WiiU does not OFFER what they want in a gaming system, what part of that don't you get. They're acustomed to a decent online system and the games that are on PS360 (that are barely anywhere to be seen on WiiU) It's just absurd to suggest those games wont sell on PS4/XB1 so EA and the likes will shift support to WiiU of all places (where it's proven they actually sell bad).

PS360 crowd don't like Mario Kart and Smash Bros, Nintendo fans do. It didn't help them win against PS2 and it wont help this time either.

I'm a fanboy for being rational?? You're talking about Sony going third party and completely ignoring what gamers who bought PS360 want from their system.


(1) Software delays PS4/Xbone

(2) EA and other major 3rd party dev/publishers getting on board with Wii U

(3) FACTS: They do exist

 

(1)By now I am sure you are aware of CAPCOM UK major layoffs. What games do you think they were working on? Those games will be delayed first. Others will follow. Make no mistake about that.

(2) EA and many notable 3rd party dev/publishers are highly invested in the Xbone and PS4. Where else do you expect them to go if they don't make a return on their investment? PC? Mobile? The Vita?  Thewy have choices but those choices are limited in revenue. Wii Unity will offer the safe haven they will need if they intend to survive.

(3) I never said SONY would make software for Nintendo or Microsoft. Only that they have expressed interest in developing the Playstation brand into a 3rd party content.

 

You are irrational only because you ignored the very information that was provided in the link. I cannot speak on this fanboy nonsense, for it is counterintuitve to what is being discussed in this thread.

What's going to get delayed, and why? In fact the first year for PS4/X1 looks so good it can afford a couple of delays.

I have no idea what Capcom were working on, I wonder what Platinum is working on giving 101 has bombed majorly? It works both ways buddy. Third parties will and have seen far more succes than they ever have/will on the Wii brand. There is no safe haven for WiiU, it's userbase is small and the games don't sell well, so what is going to propel it to "amazing sales" exactly? 3D Mario this holiday and the price cut/sku shuffle??

And why are third parties going to fail on XB1/PS4, in fact why is it any different to PS360?? You have no answers. There were dozes of studio cuts/closures all last gen, nothing has changed.

I'm the only one here talking rational, the rest of you aren't using logic or common sense for any of your arguments. Calling people fanboys is banable Lucas, be careful.



 

This thread is hilarious! I mean just entertaining posts everywhere. Keep 'em coming.



Seece said:

Everytime I see a poster like this I have to question if it's satire! I checked your post history and it tells me otherwise (most of what you said turned out wrong from the few posts I saw).

Just strikes to me there are so many Nintendo fans in this thread that aren't willing to look at things logically and face the facts, so are coming up with these ridiculous scenario's where Sony go third party and WiiU becomes gamers choice.

Here are some facts that need to be outlined and no longer ignored.

If Sony didn't go third party last gen, they aint ever going third party now. They're getting their finances in order (to the annoyance of many) even their prolific TV division is making money! The PS4 won't sell at a significant loss which only cements its future success being $400. And this WiiU more powerful than PS4? It doesn't have it in its GUTS to be more powerful, all this smoke and mirrors you guys are talking about, you might as well say it's more powerful because there is a little magically mouse in side the WiiU doing its thing, that's how you're coming across.

PS4 and Xbox One carry on giving gamers what they wanted this past gen, WiiU does not. You're talking about a monumental shift in gamers tastes and expectations in quality. The overall image of the WiiU does not appeal to the COD/GTA crowd, and it simply doesn't get the third party games they want. This is exactly why PS360 were as successful in the end as the Wii was.

How is WiiU any different from Wii in that regard? It isn't. You know deep down it isn't. Only this time, it isn't resonating with the blue ocean Nintendo expanding into, which is now evident the majority of the reason the Wii was such a hit.

Why was Wii such a hit vs WIiU? Accessibility. It was easy for anyone to pick up,and play, WiiU is confusing and takes that away. Fresh. It was unlike anything we'd seen before, WiiU is not and to boot the casuals have moved on to tablets and mobiles. That is the new craze and it's here to stay.

You'd think it would be black and white for you guys, the WIi came out of the gates at lightning speed and sold sold sold, based on what it was. It didn't need games (past Wii Sports) and price cuts to help get it going, and it could have still sold like hotpots if it was $300. WiiU has done the opposite! It's tracking below Dreamcast. Yet you guys think that games previously ignored by your standard PS360 type gamer and the masses (Mario kart, Smash) are going to lure in everybody, there is no logic in that. Also this "price cut" is going to help? No it isn't? It's a sku shuffle and as a result the baseline is still $300, regardless of what bundle they were buying before, it's no price drop and it won't have the impact of one. This isn't $299 PS3 slim here.

Lastly, WiiU doesn't have what it takes to be the "everybody" console. I know I wouldn't buy it if Sony or MS went down, and I can bet millions of other PS360 gamers wouldn't either. It doesn't have the quality of online MS and Sony have, it doesn't have IPS that appeal to that crowd, it's very platformer and cartoon heavy, which is no bad thing but it's a niche these days within gamers.

None of you have come up with any logic or reasoning which is why I still doubt the authenticity of the author and posters here, if you are serious tho you need a better argument because simply saying "WiiU will start the revoloution this holiday, Sony will go third party" ect just sounds absurd.

And I love how some of you are moving the goalposts already, I wonder at which point you'll face the facts, when this holiday, when Mario Kart and Smash fail to lift it to Wii levels, let alone UNITY levels.

I believe the Wii U is going to go on to sell great, yet practically everything you're saying is right. Why can't any of these Unity people think Nintendo will do awesome without the total destruction of the competition? Is the opposite of their theories that if the PS4 doesn't fail, the Wii U is doomed?



Seece said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Seece said:
Dv8thwonder said:
@Seece Satire? Uh, no.

Sony themselves has said they will be going 3rd party.   http://www.cio.com/article/716714/Sony_Game_Chief_Third_party_Playstation_Consoles_a_Possibility   I never said in my post when.

They will sell well enough during the holidays but will fall once all the delays hit. And they will come.

That leads me to say that yes, the 'enthusiast' gamer will flock to the Wii Unity eventually once EA and other large devs/pubs are forced to create software because the install base of the Wii Unity will be too great to ignore.

The Wii Unity will be a success. Not a matter of if but when. And that when is soon enough.

The Wii Unity is confusing, how?

Using Mario Kart and Smash Bros. as proof of your argument is laughable. If they play games as much as the next 'enthusiast' gamer it wouldn't matter what console it was on. If its a great people will play it.

The console fanboy nonsense has got to stop. You speak for yourself and you alone.


LOL they're talking about hardware, that doesn't mean they're going or ever will go third party and put their software on MS and Nintendo systems, dude wth.

What delays? All I see right now is Nintendo deaying stuff ...

I'm sorry but did EA and the likes abandon the PS360 when the Wii was selling double what they were combined and breaking records left right and center? No it didn't. You still don't explain why 'enthusiast gamers' will flock to WiiU. Like I already explained WiiU does not OFFER what they want in a gaming system, what part of that don't you get. They're acustomed to a decent online system and the games that are on PS360 (that are barely anywhere to be seen on WiiU) It's just absurd to suggest those games wont sell on PS4/XB1 so EA and the likes will shift support to WiiU of all places (where it's proven they actually sell bad).

PS360 crowd don't like Mario Kart and Smash Bros, Nintendo fans do. It didn't help them win against PS2 and it wont help this time either.

I'm a fanboy for being rational?? You're talking about Sony going third party and completely ignoring what gamers who bought PS360 want from their system.


(1) Software delays PS4/Xbone

(2) EA and other major 3rd party dev/publishers getting on board with Wii U

(3) FACTS: They do exist

 

(1)By now I am sure you are aware of CAPCOM UK major layoffs. What games do you think they were working on? Those games will be delayed first. Others will follow. Make no mistake about that.

(2) EA and many notable 3rd party dev/publishers are highly invested in the Xbone and PS4. Where else do you expect them to go if they don't make a return on their investment? PC? Mobile? The Vita?  Thewy have choices but those choices are limited in revenue. Wii Unity will offer the safe haven they will need if they intend to survive.

(3) I never said SONY would make software for Nintendo or Microsoft. Only that they have expressed interest in developing the Playstation brand into a 3rd party content.

 

You are irrational only because you ignored the very information that was provided in the link. I cannot speak on this fanboy nonsense, for it is counterintuitve to what is being discussed in this thread.

What's going to get delayed, and why? In fact the first year for PS4/X1 looks so good it can afford a couple of delays.

I have no idea what Capcom were working on, I wonder what Platinum is working on giving 101 has bombed majorly? It works both ways buddy. Third parties will and have seen far more succes than they ever have/will on the Wii brand. There is no safe haven for WiiU, it's userbase is small and the games don't sell well, so what is going to propel it to "amazing sales" exactly? 3D Mario this holiday and the price cut/sku shuffle??

And why are third parties going to fail on XB1/PS4, in fact why is it any different to PS360?? You have no answers. There were dozes of studio cuts/closures all last gen, nothing has changed.

I'm the only one here talking rational, the rest of you aren't using logic or common sense for any of your arguments. Calling people fanboys is banable Lucas, be careful.

Well said Seece. I was going to reply earlier but you pretty much nailed it on the head. 



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joesampson said:
Seece said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Seece said:




(1) Software delays PS4/Xbone

(2) EA and other major 3rd party dev/publishers getting on board with Wii U

(3) FACTS: They do exist

 

(1)By now I am sure you are aware of CAPCOM UK major layoffs. What games do you think they were working on? Those games will be delayed first. Others will follow. Make no mistake about that.

(2) EA and many notable 3rd party dev/publishers are highly invested in the Xbone and PS4. Where else do you expect them to go if they don't make a return on their investment? PC? Mobile? The Vita?  Thewy have choices but those choices are limited in revenue. Wii Unity will offer the safe haven they will need if they intend to survive.

(3) I never said SONY would make software for Nintendo or Microsoft. Only that they have expressed interest in developing the Playstation brand into a 3rd party content.

 

You are irrational only because you ignored the very information that was provided in the link. I cannot speak on this fanboy nonsense, for it is counterintuitve to what is being discussed in this thread.

What's going to get delayed, and why? In fact the first year for PS4/X1 looks so good it can afford a couple of delays.

I have no idea what Capcom were working on, I wonder what Platinum is working on giving 101 has bombed majorly? It works both ways buddy. Third parties will and have seen far more succes than they ever have/will on the Wii brand. There is no safe haven for WiiU, it's userbase is small and the games don't sell well, so what is going to propel it to "amazing sales" exactly? 3D Mario this holiday and the price cut/sku shuffle??

And why are third parties going to fail on XB1/PS4, in fact why is it any different to PS360?? You have no answers. There were dozes of studio cuts/closures all last gen, nothing has changed.

I'm the only one here talking rational, the rest of you aren't using logic or common sense for any of your arguments. Calling people fanboys is banable Lucas, be careful.

Well said Seece. I was going to reply earlier but you pretty much nailed it on the head. 

seece, you are such a fanboy. well see you when my ban expires. :)

 

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34 years playing games.

 

Teriol said:
joesampson said:

Well said Seece. I was going to reply earlier but you pretty much nailed it on the head. 

seece, you are such a fanboy. well see you when my ban expires. :)

If logic and actual reasoning makes you think I'm a fanboy, it says more about you.



 



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

The Wii U is an everyone's Home Console.

Look at these trailers:

Batman Arkham City Armored Edition

ZombiU

Wii U Golf Prototype

Nintendo Land Ninja Castle

 

Plus the Wii U has many other features like true Panarama view on a Home Console, and video chat during multiplayer gameplay with the people you playing with or against, and NFC & reverse augmented realty and so fort.

 

FYI The Wonderful 101 is a AAA game that is a must play. Can't wait for all the other awesome games to hit, like Bayonetta 2 & Mario Kart 8. Does t anyone just care about the software anymore, without making excuses because it's in said console? Just look at how awesome Bioshock & Mass Effect are.



Reviews bashed Wonderful 101 because unlike many recent games, they dont hold your hand treating you like someone who cant think for yourself.