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You'll never get anywhere if you disregard everything you see as "nonsense" if it doesnt fit any preconceived notion you have in your head.

Bet you're the type to roast a witch at the stake.

My momma used to say, start with what you can do today, not tommorow. I was raised on this one basic truth.
You can always learn something from a fool



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Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
You'll never get anywhere if you disregard everything you see as "nonsense" if it doesnt fit any preconceived notion you have in your head.

Bet you're the type to roast a witch at the stake.

My momma used to say, start with what you can do today, not tommorow. I was raised on this one basic truth.
You can always learn something from a fool

I disregard it as nonsense because I have no idea what you're trying to say.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I dont partake in rune speak.

Perhaps Ill enumerate on my perspective and see if that helps you any



Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Clearly old news as far as the Internet goes but why haven't I seen it posted here despite its relevance is beyond me. http://gaminrealm.com/2013/12/30/sony-79-chance-bankrupt-2-years/

It was posted and it's clearly complete bullshit. 


In this thread? Hmm..

Is this bullshit based off of facts or biased opinions?

Did you even read the article? No I'm sure you just looked at the title and instantly deduced that Sony will be forced into bankruptcy soon. The article also states that Nintendo has a 22% chance of bankruptcy, does that make any sense to you? Nintendo most likely has billions in their war chest, and the solid 3DS sales will balance out the awful WiiU numbers. I would say their chance of going bankrupt is less than 1%. They are doing nothing more than pulling a random number out of their ass hoping gullible fanboys will wet themselves in glee of the possiblity of Sony going bankrupt. Here's a hint, it's not going to happen. 

And I don't think a person who believes the WiiU will sell 3m units in Q1 2014 should be talking about anyone having biased opinions. 

If you think the number is just pulled out of someones ass you really should look into it a little further, or barring that not comment on what it means. The figure is just a standard measurrement used in financial analysis to evaluate the risk of bankrupcy. The company who published these numbers has very little to gain from getting gullible fanboys to wet themselves, everything to gain from providing solid financial data. So why exactly do you think they are making the number up?

If you care to you can calculate the number yourself since the algorithm they have used is widely known and the data used is in the public domain. I don't care enough to do it, but if you want to prove that these numbers are hogwash go ahead. Show the math.



The problem isnt the math.^ Its what the interpretation bears on Sony's relevant situation.


Kaz is just treading water right now. But I mean. Nintendo has more money than they do in the bank right now. if I remember correctly. Sony dipped under 10 billion in yen



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impertinence said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Clearly old news as far as the Internet goes but why haven't I seen it posted here despite its relevance is beyond me. http://gaminrealm.com/2013/12/30/sony-79-chance-bankrupt-2-years/

It was posted and it's clearly complete bullshit. 


In this thread? Hmm..

Is this bullshit based off of facts or biased opinions?

Did you even read the article? No I'm sure you just looked at the title and instantly deduced that Sony will be forced into bankruptcy soon. The article also states that Nintendo has a 22% chance of bankruptcy, does that make any sense to you? Nintendo most likely has billions in their war chest, and the solid 3DS sales will balance out the awful WiiU numbers. I would say their chance of going bankrupt is less than 1%. They are doing nothing more than pulling a random number out of their ass hoping gullible fanboys will wet themselves in glee of the possiblity of Sony going bankrupt. Here's a hint, it's not going to happen. 

And I don't think a person who believes the WiiU will sell 3m units in Q1 2014 should be talking about anyone having biased opinions. 

If you think the number is just pulled out of someones ass you really should look into it a little further, or barring that not comment on what it means. The figure is just a standard measurrement used in financial analysis to evaluate the risk of bankrupcy. The company who published these numbers has very little to gain from getting gullible fanboys to wet themselves, everything to gain from providing solid financial data. So why exactly do you think they are making the number up?

If you care to you can calculate the number yourself since the algorithm they have used is widely known and the data used is in the public domain. I don't care enough to do it, but if you want to prove that these numbers are hogwash go ahead. Show the math.

Solid financial data? Even the article that quoted the data said it's all a guess. Do you think just because they calculated a number based off of a few certain variables it's 100% accurate? It is absolutely impossible to calculate a company's chances of going bankrupt because there an infinite number of variables to work with.  It isn't just about stocks and trade values, that's a shortsighted way to look at any company's financial status. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I really don't understand the blind support for Nintendo, especially after the Wii. So, Nintendo's success only brought about shovelware, casual party games, and an archaic online infrastructure. Yet this somehow is all excused because "haha they make more money than Sony!" Has anyone ever truly put this into perspective? Think about it: the Wii made Nintendo lots of money, and they choose to invest this on a console, whose power is only comparable to 7th gen hardware, still has outdated online support, and has one of the worst gamepads a console has ever seen. This is more than good enough for Nintendo fans? It pleases you to know that your favorite company opts to reserve its profits and doesn't even try to take some risk financially for the betterment of console gaming?

Contrast this with Sony's losses and what they took to showing everyone with PS4: a console more developer friendly, an improved UI, OS (which helps with things like browsing the PS Store), loads of power that is comparable to SOME high end PCs. So the PS4 isn't worth owning in spite of this because Sony doesn't make enough money for you? Why is this talking point used so much by Nintendo fans? Because arguing sales in units is obviously going to become a losing proposition for them. It's a sad and pathetic strawman argument. And trying to draw parallels with SEGA's financials, really? Talk about desperate here.



DBZfan2027 said:
I really don't understand the blind support for Nintendo, especially after the Wii. So, Nintendo's success only brought about shovelware, casual party games, and an archaic online infrastructure. Yet this somehow is all excused because "haha they make more money than Sony!" Has anyone ever truly put this into perspective? Think about it: the Wii made Nintendo lots of money, and they choose to invest this on a console, whose power is only comparable to 7th gen hardware, still has outdated online support, and has one of the worst gamepads a console has ever seen. This is more than good enough for Nintendo fans? It pleases you to know that your favorite company opts to reserve its profits and doesn't even try to take some risk financially for the betterment of console gaming?

Contrast this with Sony's losses and what they took to showing everyone with PS4: a console more developer friendly, an improved UI, OS (which helps with things like browsing the PS Store), loads of power that is comparable to SOME high end PCs. So the PS4 isn't worth owning in spite of this because Sony doesn't make enough money for you? Why is this talking point used so much by Nintendo fans? Because arguing sales in units is obviously going to become a losing proposition for them. It's a sad and pathetic strawman argument. And trying to draw parallels with SEGA's financials, really? Talk about desperate here.

I like you. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Clearly old news as far as the Internet goes but why haven't I seen it posted here despite its relevance is beyond me. http://gaminrealm.com/2013/12/30/sony-79-chance-bankrupt-2-years/

It was posted and it's clearly complete bullshit. 


In this thread? Hmm..

Is this bullshit based off of facts or biased opinions?

Did you even read the article? No I'm sure you just looked at the title and instantly deduced that Sony will be forced into bankruptcy soon. The article also states that Nintendo has a 22% chance of bankruptcy, does that make any sense to you? Nintendo most likely has billions in their war chest, and the solid 3DS sales will balance out the awful WiiU numbers. I would say their chance of going bankrupt is less than 1%. They are doing nothing more than pulling a random number out of their ass hoping gullible fanboys will wet themselves in glee of the possiblity of Sony going bankrupt. Here's a hint, it's not going to happen. 

And I don't think a person who believes the WiiU will sell 3m units in Q1 2014 should be talking about anyone having biased opinions. 


I not only read it. I actually went Macroaxis' site to verify if it was in fact true. It was. And the Nintendo numbers make perfect sense with their recent losses over a period of time. Sony is in the red, which everybody in this thread with half a thought knew before posting. Or at least I hope they did.

random number out of their asses? Do you know how silly you sound right now. Here of all places you make this assumption. Come on now fusioncode, you're better than this. Denial is not a good look. No matter what flag you wave.

And in regards to me hating Sony: I don't. Total indifference. I could care less if they exist or not because for one I have never owned one of their products or do I intend to in the forseeable future.



Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans

Dv8thwonder said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Fusioncode said:
Dv8thwonder said:
Clearly old news as far as the Internet goes but why haven't I seen it posted here despite its relevance is beyond me. http://gaminrealm.com/2013/12/30/sony-79-chance-bankrupt-2-years/

It was posted and it's clearly complete bullshit. 


In this thread? Hmm..

Is this bullshit based off of facts or biased opinions?

Did you even read the article? No I'm sure you just looked at the title and instantly deduced that Sony will be forced into bankruptcy soon. The article also states that Nintendo has a 22% chance of bankruptcy, does that make any sense to you? Nintendo most likely has billions in their war chest, and the solid 3DS sales will balance out the awful WiiU numbers. I would say their chance of going bankrupt is less than 1%. They are doing nothing more than pulling a random number out of their ass hoping gullible fanboys will wet themselves in glee of the possiblity of Sony going bankrupt. Here's a hint, it's not going to happen. 

And I don't think a person who believes the WiiU will sell 3m units in Q1 2014 should be talking about anyone having biased opinions. 


I not only read it. I actually went Macroaxis' site to verify if it was in fact true. It was. And the Nintendo numbers make perfect sense with their recent losses over a period of time. Sony is in the red, which everybody in this thread with half a thought knew before posting. Or at least I hope they did.

random number out of their asses? Do you know how silly you sound right now. Here of all places you make this assumption. Come on now fusioncode, you're better than this. Denial is not a good look. No matter what flag you wave.

And in regards to me hating Sony: I don't. Total indifference. I could care less if they exist or not because for one I have never owned one of their products or do I intend to in the forseeable future.

Go read my response to impertinance. There are way too many variables to accurately calculate a company's chances of going under. And please don't say I'm in denial when you think the WiiU will sell 3m units in the next 3 months. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!