Seece said:
Of course, how did I miss that?! |
Then why is the 3DS outselling the ONE & PS4 & PS3 & 360 every week?
Why is everyone on the Internet saying they are going to buy a 3DS or 3DS XL in 2014?
Seece said:
Of course, how did I miss that?! |
Then why is the 3DS outselling the ONE & PS4 & PS3 & 360 every week?
Why is everyone on the Internet saying they are going to buy a 3DS or 3DS XL in 2014?
Fusioncode said:
Normally I'd agree with you, but there has been a cult-like behavior with his supporters. One guy even referred to him as a messiah. |
Well I guess that must be an isolated case. That is pretty fucked up! Or maybe he was joking, I sure hope he was...
Still I always took it as more of a morale boost for Nintendo fans. Like some sort of positive thread about the Wii U! I think it was a good addition and sparked a lot of debate and LOTS of pages!
Anyway hope no more people come out with that messiah thing. It sounds creepy.
"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"
Fusioncode said:
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All you have to do is reply to this thread.
I will be making a 3D Movies of 2015 Thread, so I will be able to notice and come back by simply checking mine Recent Replies in my profile.
Kaizar said:
Then why is the 3DS outselling the ONE & PS4 & PS3 & 360 every week? |
What's that got to do with 3DS having its peak?? Have you bothered to actually look at the figures?
impertinence said: John Lucas, a lot of this is great, but I wish you would refrain from the personal jabs as well. It's not really part of the argument how cynical Mummelmann might be nor your analysis of it. That said, strong comeback can't wait for the continuation. To the rest of you, no matter what you think about the topic at hand, does it not peak your interest a little bit extra when you see the last porter was Johnlucas? I have to say, again he's put forward an interesting observation in contrasting Nintendo as a toy company making tech and the other two as tech companies making a toy. I also enjoy the thinking around why there are so many playing card references in Nintendo games. Good observation and an interesting thought. Hopefully the answer also puts to rest the claim of trying to frame the dabate and the cult of Lucas references people keep making. None of that is based on very solid reasoning in my opinion. |
Look who's back! After conveniently ignoring my rebuttal and taking a pause (just in case...) you come back here to praise John Lucas once again. I tried very hard to understand what kind of person are you and that's what I did with the last conversation I had with you. Your replies and silences made me realize that your priority is rhetorical speach (over informative discussion) and that your double-standard comments are the main vehicle for you to support Nintendo either in promoting its pros or in damage-controlling its cons.
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Seece said: How predictable, JL ignores talking about his figures. |
That's an interesting overview although it isn't a fair comparison between consoles, once WiiU is out for over 1 year while the other two have just started. Here is a fairer comparison: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=174878&page=1
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Kaizar said: Xbox becoming irrelevant, like PlayStation in the Handheld market. |
Microsoft is the only ever emerging player of the 3. Sony had a decline with PS3. Nintendo experienced declines with N64, Game Cube and now with WiiU. Xbox is the only one in which the future has always shined more than the present/past. To claim they are becoming irrelevant is like saying the world is running out of people.
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Dv8thwonder said: Explain to me how exactly is killing virtual gang members, shagging loose woman and poor car physics so different now then it was then? GRAPHICS? That can't be that because you used that to support your argument against 3D Mario. You've either never played a 3D Mario game before and/or you are delusional and think GTA as a series of games has substance besides its graphics. |
First of all, I've played several Mario 3D and GTA games so I have more than enough information to make such comparison and understand the clear difference between both evolutions. Second, GTA doesn't excel for its graphics (and what it gets by disprioritizing graphics in the "power use" management is what makes it so unique). Third, properly answering your first question would take me ages. I will just put here some clues:
1 - Different environments from game to game (sometimes, 5 times bigger than the previous one).
2 - Exponential growth of controlling mechanics and possible movements.
3 - Generational evolution in car handling from game to game.
4 - Introduction/enhancement of possible activities (such as action missions, driving careers, sports, professions, outlaw activities, assests management, etc.).
5 - New story and characters from game to game.
6 - Huge increase of objects (weapons, vehicles, garments, etc.)
You won't find such changes in the Mario 3D platform series, which by the way would be much easier to implement, once GTA:
A - Is a sandbox game
B - Has complex simulation of living cities
C - Is realistic, not cartoonish (which doesn't allow to simplify reality without being noticed as lack of work)
D - Has a huge amount of unique content
This makes GTA a very heavy machine, impossible to do a great sequel without millions of euros and millions of man-hours work. On the other hand, Mario 3D is a very light machine that doesn't significantly evolve from game to game and sometimes it doesn't evolve at all (it just gets different).
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Seece said: Of course, how did I miss that?! |
You say 3DS has looks like it has peaked? We dont know that just yet. It can still be up YOY. To quote me from a post i made in another thread some time ago.
"Looking at 3DS sales on VGC you can observe as follows:
Calendar year: 2011: 13 250 062
Calendar year: 2012: 14 406 901
Calendar year: 2013 so far: 11 900 000
Trends:
Week ending dec 08. 2012: 750 199 I Sales according to VGC: 07. 2013: 666 121
Week ending dec 15. 2012: 1 025 218 I Forecasted sales 14. 2013: 900 000 I Sales according to VGC: 899 915
Week ending dec 22. 2012: 1 241 211 I Forecasted sales 21. 2013: 1 100 000 I Sales according to VGC: 1 078 565
Week ending dec 29. 2012: 725 008 I Forecasted sales 28. 2013: 650 000
So, an estimated sales this calendar year is: 14 550 000"
Update:
Calendar year: 2011: 13 250 062
Calendar year: 2012: 14 406 901
Calendar year: 2013 so far: 13 900 000
Trends:
Week ending dec 08. 2012: 750 199 I Sales according to VGC: 07. 2013: 692 779 (adjusted up by VGC)
Week ending dec 15. 2012: 1 025 218 I Forecasted sales 14. 2013: 900 000 I Sales according to VGC: 899 915
Week ending dec 22. 2012: 1 241 211 I Forecasted sales 21. 2013: 1 100 000 I Sales according to VGC: 1 078 565
Week ending dec 29. 2012: 725 008 I Forecasted sales 28. 2013: 650 000 I Sales according to VGC: ?
It needs to sell more than 550 000 week ending dec 29. 2013. If it sells less than that it will have peaked in 2012.
If it sells more, you really cant say that it has peaked on a worldwide basis. I wont compare 3DS to DS as that is an unfair comparison, but will instead compare it to GBA. With GBA you can observe how it peaked not the year Pokemon was released, but the following year. So yes, it will have its peak but i'm pretty sure that peak will be in 2014 on a worldwide basis.
Fusioncode said: One guy even referred to him as a messiah. |
One "follower" does not equal a cult. Why are you purposely derailing the thread. Do we need mod intervention?
On topic: 7.5m to 8m WiiU's sold by March 31st 2014
Things that need to die in 2016: Defeatist attitudes of Nintendo fans