I am discussing the OP, just not the part you want peopel to discuss, sorry but this isn't a dictatorship, can't tell people what to talk about.

@ Anfebious, won't need to come January! It'll be pretty obvious the state of things, anyone still believing in the OP is doing so for unknown reasons. If it just becomes JL and his fans talking about the impossible then it'll be locked.

I'm not sure why you (impertinence) are acting like Lucas' arguments are any better than his predictions.  I'd say the gist of at least his OP was that the Wii U would take off, the PS4 and XBO would languish and die, and third parties would be coming back home to Nintendo.  All of these things combined would lead to Nintendo unifying and dominating gaming. 

So how are those things going so far?  The Wii U is still doing terrible, even after a price cut, a bunch of bundles, and a somewhat decent flow of games.  While it is still early to say the fate of the PS4 and XBO, so far they are breaking records and looking to catch up to the Wii U in the west in very little time.  Third party games both multiplatform and exlusive have continued to do poorly on the Wii U.  I think pretty much all the series that saw a release in both 2012 and 2013 are tracking behind the ones from last year.

Lucas seems to confer upon Nintendo some sort of omniscient status.  The idea that it was all part of their master plan to kill off the Wii and replace it with a system that is losing them money and selling worse than the Dreamcast is just ludicrous.

Supply man. Sony and Microsoft are going to sell 1 billion consoles this generation. If they have supply for that many consoles I'm sure Nintendo has supply for 1 million a week.

No, Sony and Microsfot are not destroying gaming. They are vessels for Western Third parties to destroy gaming. At least I am somewhat concerned that they are. Of course, if you're one of those people who think Avatar is a step forward in movie history, we are on opposite sides of the fence. Don't worry, I am pretty sure that you and your ilk will get your way so you will be able to enjoy your Uncharted series/Grand Theft Auto/Beyond: Two Souls or whatever you enjoy playing.

It's your right to talk about anything you'd like. I'm not one to report people even if they stray completely off topic. Everyone has the right to speak their mind. And so I have a right to point out that what you are doing in this thread is pointless and not bringing anything to the discussion. I realize that you take some joy in pointing out poor Wii U sales, but I have to ask: Are there not enough threads where you can do that already? In this thread it just looks like you don't understand what the discussion is about.

Anyway, I am not an idiot, I know you're going to keep up your little number no matter what I say (unless of course by some miracle the prophetic Wii U turn around predicted comes to be), so just consider this a calling out of sorts.

Thank you for your time.

You are WRONG. This thread is about how Nintendo will dominate the compatition and force unity to the market by forcing Microsoft and Sony out of the market. The predictions are over the top and frankly more of a homage to his original (and legendary) Wii predictions. In the post that started this whole thing he was completely off on the scale, while the argument he made was still proved to be correct 5, 6 or 7 years later. And yes, the original crazy prediction caught as much flack then as they do now, and yes, people failed to see the argument and argued about immaterial details then as they do now.

Here is how you need to approach the numbers John Lucas has presented:

They are not actual numbers, they represent a meteoric rise and domination of the market for the Wii U. The point of the thread is to show how Nintendo will force third parties to accept their hardware and force Sony and Microsoft out of the market. That's the point of the thread. Not seeing that is pretty unimpressive to be brutally honest.

As I said before, if Nintendo ends up completely dominating this generation and forces Sony and Microsoft out of the console business, will you still say that this thread has failed because the final numbers were off by 100 000 000 units or whatever the case might be?

I should drop out my jokes. No one seems to get them anyway .

I've said three times that I don't think the predictions he makes will come true. I am just calling some people out for completely failing to discuss the real topic of the thread.

You, and a few other people, are missing the point of the thread by chasing down a pretty irrelevant path. The premise in itself is interesting, it's a little annoying to constantly have a few people pop in with the same comparissons of how far off the first prediction is. In fairness, it's not as irritating as the Zod/FinalFan side show, but still pretty irritating. If I was one of the people who love to report users left and right for the smallest of triffles I'd report you for spamming the thread.

It's immaterial if the Wii U sells 12 million by the end of the year or not, that's not the point of the thread. I know you think that by discrediting that prediction, somehow the whole arrgument will be invalid, but of course that assumption is just a fallacy. The predictions themselves are nothing but window dressing anyway. Stop focusing on the hard numbers, start focusing on the argument. The argument of course being if Nintendo will dominate this current generation based on the strength of their gamemaking abilities and if this generation will be the final nail in the coffin for overspending third parties or not.

I don't think John Lucas is right in his prediction of this being the last console war, but he is correct in many of the things he says about Nintendo being the last gamemaker. I admire his optimism, but I think it's more likely that videogames will go the way of the movie and music industry and that true craftmansship will be forced into a niche of the market and shallow, easy to consume, content will rule the majority of the commercial market. Ironically, you see scores of self proclaimed 'gamers' cheering on as the industry is devoured by commercial interests that will destroy the creative elements that makes videogames fun to begin with.