It needs a 500k average or more weekly starting last week to reach 7 million and 666k average to reach 8 million.

Either would imply it to match or improve upon its best week ever (565k-ish) every single week from here on out. 12 million was never possible, they might not even reach that number before january 1st 2015.

Even if at the end of the gen the Wii U sells best and the 4BONE fail, I'd hardly consider John's prediction right. He's already wrong about 2013 sales so is whole prediction is wrong by default. You can't pick and choose which parts of the prediction matter.

You, and a few other people, are missing the point of the thread by chasing down a pretty irrelevant path. The premise in itself is interesting, it's a little annoying to constantly have a few people pop in with the same comparissons of how far off the first prediction is. In fairness, it's not as irritating as the Zod/FinalFan side show, but still pretty irritating. If I was one of the people who love to report users left and right for the smallest of triffles I'd report you for spamming the thread.

It's immaterial if the Wii U sells 12 million by the end of the year or not, that's not the point of the thread. I know you think that by discrediting that prediction, somehow the whole arrgument will be invalid, but of course that assumption is just a fallacy. The predictions themselves are nothing but window dressing anyway. Stop focusing on the hard numbers, start focusing on the argument. The argument of course being if Nintendo will dominate this current generation based on the strength of their gamemaking abilities and if this generation will be the final nail in the coffin for overspending third parties or not.

I don't think John Lucas is right in his prediction of this being the last console war, but he is correct in many of the things he says about Nintendo being the last gamemaker. I admire his optimism, but I think it's more likely that videogames will go the way of the movie and music industry and that true craftmansship will be forced into a niche of the market and shallow, easy to consume, content will rule the majority of the commercial market. Ironically, you see scores of self proclaimed 'gamers' cheering on as the industry is devoured by commercial interests that will destroy the creative elements that makes videogames fun to begin with.

Well if he missed the exact numbers by a fair margin it could be valid. I won't expect a person to predict an exact figure.

Just to make it clear, I think he will miss but we should consider the implications of this thread. If the generation goes as johnlucas said it would melt the very fabric of the internet. Maybe of reality even. It would be huge.

I'm not saying it will happen though, but being overly optimistic isn't that bad at all. 

I do think it's worth noting that the thread is a very serious issue indeed. The very fabric of the internet is at stake.

Go ahead, and learn what spamming is in the meanwhile because all my posts have been on topic. This thread is about his insane 240 mill prediction, all the guff in the OP is just wall-o-text that means very little much.

Me and others, point out how ludicrus the first part of his prediction is, because that's the only evidence we can provide for right now. Obviously the rest of the prediction is wrong too but lets focus on the here and now shall we.

The argument falls flat if the numbers don't match up, christ it's 1+1, not difficult to fathom. WiiU isn't selling well now, which does nothing but the opposite to suggest it'll sell well in the furture thus WiiU won't 'dominate'.

I'm not sure how much more simple I could make this. The entire point of this thread is a sales prediction for the WiiU. Lucas was WRONG. If his prediction is wrong, then his argument does not hold up. If it did, the WiiU would be on fire right now. It's not. Lucas has ignored everyone asking him for an update and defending him isn't doing any good. It's his prediction and he should come defend it. Or at least acknowledge that he was wrong. 

Okay guys if you really want to johnlucas  come out you are going to have to wait. He said 31st of December. If by that time his prediction is wrong he will come here and post about it.

Until then you can ask and post all you want but I doubt he will answer. He made it pretty clear that his prediction was for the 31st of december. Just wait guys!

The argument is not hard to fathom at all, that's why it's annoying to have you and others fail to address the argument and instead focusing on a completely irrelevant topic. This topic is NOT about the 240 million prediction. It's about the potential of this generation being the last generation of PlayStation consoles and by extention the XBox as well.

Obviously the numbers are completely irrelevant. IF the console market totally collapses on itself and the Wii U sells say 35 million units, the PS4 and XBox One sell 8 and 7 million and both Microsoft and Sony are forced out of the industry, will you be dancing on the rubbel of this thread calling out the OP when in that case it has proved itself to be 100% accurate?

That's what this topic is about, weekly updates on the gap to the immaterial sales prediction from a hundred years ago is completely irrelevant and brings nothing of value to the topic.

Wow, good point. Then I guess 6 million is more probable.

You are WRONG. This thread is about how Nintendo will dominate the compatition and force unity to the market by forcing Microsoft and Sony out of the market. The predictions are over the top and frankly more of a homage to his original (and legendary) Wii predictions. In the post that started this whole thing he was completely off on the scale, while the argument he made was still proved to be correct 5, 6 or 7 years later. And yes, the original crazy prediction caught as much flack then as they do now, and yes, people failed to see the argument and argued about immaterial details then as they do now.

Here is how you need to approach the numbers John Lucas has presented:

They are not actual numbers, they represent a meteoric rise and domination of the market for the Wii U. The point of the thread is to show how Nintendo will force third parties to accept their hardware and force Sony and Microsoft out of the market. That's the point of the thread. Not seeing that is pretty unimpressive to be brutally honest.

As I said before, if Nintendo ends up completely dominating this generation and forces Sony and Microsoft out of the console business, will you still say that this thread has failed because the final numbers were off by 100 000 000 units or whatever the case might be?