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Zero999 on 05 August 2013
Angelv577 said:
@Zero999

It isn't about if we (ps, xbox owners) want the game to be on Wii U or not, we really don't care the platform the games is released as long as everybody can play the game, the point of the argument is if it really worth the port for the developer perspective and since we don't work for them, every argument including yours is based solely on opinion.

So porting it is just a thing of copy and paste then?, so you're saying it doesn't matter the type of game, every game will cost around a million, if it is that easy, why in the hell the console are missing a lot of AAA multiplatform titles on the console? oh yeah, I know, the conspiracy theory.

Bananaking and oniyide have provide enough evidence that support my opnion, I won't repeat the same again, but something is for sure, if rockstar decide to not port the game on the console, it because it isn't worth it for them, not because their hate o any conspiracy theory, or because they are stupid. The game has been 5 years on development and they know the game will sell more than 20 million on ps3/360/pc alone.

bolded: speak for yourself, there's a huge amount of haters who clearly don't want wii u to receive games.

bolded2: who said that? if I were saying that it would imply 0 cost to port.

bolded3: please list that "a lot", cause wii u is getting most AAA multiplatforms for 2013.

bolded4: you say they provide EVIDENCE but what i say is PURELY OPINION. sorry but... OBJECTION!

bolded5: I wouldn't rule out stupidity for all companies, just look at EA.

bolded6: and how is that relevant? profiting enough on those platforms means they should leave money on the table with wii u? they'd get an extra few millions with a wii u version and it would pave the way for future gta titles to do gangbusters.



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Seece on 05 August 2013
Zero999 said:
Angelv577 said:
@oniyide

He is just assuming that every game cost $ 1 million to port based on the ubisoft statement. In order to know how much rockstar need to sell to make a profit, first: he has to know how much will cost Rockstar to port a game like GTA based on internal numbers and second: he need to know how much they get in return for every copy sold. Since we don't have those numbers as evidence, assuming selling 100k = profit is wishful thinking at best. I doubt it cost $1 million to port a game like GTA, probably cost much more.

it's still just porting so your "much more" can't possibly differ much from the 1M standard. and it still doesn't change the fact that it would easily profit, establish the franchise on wii u, help wii u sales, be a great addition to wii u owners, good for everyone. Yet some people have to come here almost religiously, taking excuses for arguments out of their ass simply because THEY DON'T WANT WII U TO HAVE THE GAME.

I don't get this train of thought, you realise whatever discussion is had here has noa ctual baring on whether WiiU gets the game or not right?

My main reasoning as I said earlier in the thread is that I don't think the type of userbase that would buy GTAV is on the WiiU, but his point stands, you're just assuming, (as is he) as to how much a port would cost. It could cost 1m, it could cost 5m, Ubisoft can't give a figure and expect it to be one size fits all for the entire industry. GTAV games are in a whole other ballpark as well.





 

Seece on 05 August 2013
Zero999 said:
Angelv577 said:
@Zero999

It isn't about if we (ps, xbox owners) want the game to be on Wii U or not, we really don't care the platform the games is released as long as everybody can play the game, the point of the argument is if it really worth the port for the developer perspective and since we don't work for them, every argument including yours is based solely on opinion.

So porting it is just a thing of copy and paste then?, so you're saying it doesn't matter the type of game, every game will cost around a million, if it is that easy, why in the hell the console are missing a lot of AAA multiplatform titles on the console? oh yeah, I know, the conspiracy theory.

Bananaking and oniyide have provide enough evidence that support my opnion, I won't repeat the same again, but something is for sure, if rockstar decide to not port the game on the console, it because it isn't worth it for them, not because their hate o any conspiracy theory, or because they are stupid. The game has been 5 years on development and they know the game will sell more than 20 million on ps3/360/pc alone.

bolded: speak for yourself, there's a huge amount of haters who clearly don't want wii u to receive games.

bolded2: who said that? if I were saying that it would imply 0 cost to port.

bolded3: please list that "a lot", cause wii u is getting most AAA multiplatforms for 2013.

bolded4: you say they provide EVIDENCE but what i say is PURELY OPINION. sorry but... OBJECTION!

bolded5: I wouldn't rule out stupidity for all companies, just look at EA.

bolded6: and how is that relevant? profiting enough on those platforms means they should leave money on the table with wii u? they'd get an extra few millions with a wii u version and it would pave the way for future gta titles to do gangbusters.

A "few extra mill" (which is not guaranteed) is not worth their time when they're going to make $1 billion + on PS360.

Gangbusters? Please no ...

Another thing, do you have figures on how much time it would take R* to port to WiiU? Time that could be better spent on DLC that in itself will sell millions on PS360, or onto another game. This is exactly why the $1m figure is not one size fits all.



 

r3tr0gam3r1337 on 05 August 2013
BasilZero said:
r3tr0gam3r1337 said:
BasilZero said:
Just announce a PC version and it'll all be good.

Because the PC version will be ideal for...

-Those want better grafix
-Nintendo fans who are pisspoor when it comes to multiplat titles on competitor systems can get it on PC since they hate playstation and xbox.
-Cheaper alternative if you are into PC gaming.

I just hope the port is ideal and not a lazy port like with GTAIV.

i want the PC version and just hope RS actually make full use of the discrete graphics cards and less CPU intesive, one other thing i hope rockstar do and thats not to make the game a "games for windows" game so i can actually invite my friends on steam to play in multiplayer, i dont want to have to pay for an xbox live subscription to play a PC game online.


wat

You dont need to pay money to play games over GFWL....I play GTA Episodes on Steam with my friends and none of us have a Gold account o.o.

in order for me to play GTAIV on my PC id have to pay for an xbox live subscription (game registered outside of steam), it's also required for dirt 3, if it was released on steam i would not need an xbox live subscription, games released as games for windows live are just another way for microsoft to exploit PC gamers, a few years ago GOW was free for PC gamers to play over windows live, not any more. 



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r3tr0gam3r1337 on 05 August 2013

sorry went completely off topic, got side tracked by GFWL, the Wii U should get a port of GTAV, what's the worst that could happen, poor sales?



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Angelv577 on 05 August 2013

@Zero999

Well if you believe that every game cost around 1 million to port it is like saying there is no complexities differences between games to port, so in other words, it is that easy that they just press the port button and done. My point is you can't assume that every game around 1 million to port, it could be much more that that.

Yes, there is a lot of multiplatform title released and will be release this year that never went and aren't going to Wii U,
game releases for 2013:
http://www.gamechup.com/video-game-releases-of-2013-list-of-multiplats-and-exclusives-pic/

Some of them aren't correct, like Watch dogs and Battlefield 4, but the majority still stand.

Yes, I know their argument is purely opinion, the same as your argument, purely opinion like you said cause the 1 million statement can't be used as a fact for every games, just stop thinking that every user that disagree with you and make opinion not favorable for Wii U is because of hate.



Some of them aren't correct, like Watch dogs and Battlefield 4, but the majority still stand.



badgenome on 05 August 2013
Zero999 said:

bolded3: please list that "a lot", cause wii u is getting most AAA multiplatforms for 2013.

Define "most". Because...

Injustice, RE: Revelations, Splinter Cell, Skylanders, Batman, Assassin's Creed, COD, Watch Dogs

vs.

No DmC. No Metal Gear Rising. No WWE. No Tiger Woods. No Tomb Raider. No BioShock Infinite. No Saints Row. No Madden. No Diablo III. No Battlefield. No FIFA. No South Park. No NFS: Rivals. And no GTA.



goodgamesir on 05 August 2013
Mnementh said:
chapset said:
Zero999 said:
bananaking21 said:
it would be the stupidest thing ever if rockstar released the game on the WiiU

A company making money is stupid now?

which ones made money on the wii U?

Sega, Capcom, Activision, EA and Ubisoft.

Sega all star racing sold 250k maybe it made a small profit

For Capcom

1 Monster Hunter Tri WiiU 2012 Role-Playing Capcom 0.09 0.08 0.21 0.02 0.40
2 Resident Evil: Revelations WiiU 2013 Action Capcom 0.01 0.01 0.02 0.00 0.05

Maybe they made money with monster Hunter Tri but they surely lost some from resident evil

I'll give you Capcom and Sega in the'' We made money group'' but for the rest hell no.

For Activision( two highest sellers everything else is under 50k)

1 Call of Duty: Black Ops II WiiU 2012 Shooter Activision 0.12 0.06 0.00 0.02 0.19
2 Skylanders Giants WiiU 2012 Action Activision 0.09 0.04 0.00 0.01 0.14

I doubt they made money with those sales

For EA, they almost stop supporting the console all together that's not a sign of we made money on the wii U

1 Mass Effect 3 WiiU 2012 Role-Playing Electronic Arts 0.04 0.02 0.00 0.01 0.06
2 Need for Speed: Most Wanted - A Criterion Game WiiU 2013 Racing Electronic Arts 0.02 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.03

and Ubisoft

1 ZombiU WiiU 2012 Action Ubisoft 0.23 0.17 0.04 0.05 0.48
2 Just Dance 4 WiiU 2012 Misc Ubisoft 0.12 0.06 0.00 0.02 0.20
3 Assassin's Creed III WiiU 2012 Action Ubisoft 0.08 0.06 0.00 0.02 0.17
4 ESPN: Sports Connection WiiU 2012 Sports Ubisoft 0.05 0.04 0.00 0.01 0.10

They lost money with zombiU we already know that, just dance was probably really cheap so maybe they made money, Ass creed no way they made money with those sales ESPN I don't know



Zero999 on 05 August 2013
Seece said:
Zero999 said:
Angelv577 said:
@Zero999

It isn't about if we (ps, xbox owners) want the game to be on Wii U or not, we really don't care the platform the games is released as long as everybody can play the game, the point of the argument is if it really worth the port for the developer perspective and since we don't work for them, every argument including yours is based solely on opinion.

So porting it is just a thing of copy and paste then?, so you're saying it doesn't matter the type of game, every game will cost around a million, if it is that easy, why in the hell the console are missing a lot of AAA multiplatform titles on the console? oh yeah, I know, the conspiracy theory.

Bananaking and oniyide have provide enough evidence that support my opnion, I won't repeat the same again, but something is for sure, if rockstar decide to not port the game on the console, it because it isn't worth it for them, not because their hate o any conspiracy theory, or because they are stupid. The game has been 5 years on development and they know the game will sell more than 20 million on ps3/360/pc alone.

bolded: speak for yourself, there's a huge amount of haters who clearly don't want wii u to receive games.

bolded2: who said that? if I were saying that it would imply 0 cost to port.

bolded3: please list that "a lot", cause wii u is getting most AAA multiplatforms for 2013.

bolded4: you say they provide EVIDENCE but what i say is PURELY OPINION. sorry but... OBJECTION!

bolded5: I wouldn't rule out stupidity for all companies, just look at EA.

bolded6: and how is that relevant? profiting enough on those platforms means they should leave money on the table with wii u? they'd get an extra few millions with a wii u version and it would pave the way for future gta titles to do gangbusters.

A "few extra mill" (which is not guaranteed) is not worth their time when they're going to make $1 billion + on PS360.

Gangbusters? Please no ...

Another thing, do you have figures on how much time it would take R* to port to WiiU? Time that could be better spent on DLC that in itself will sell millions on PS360, or onto another game. This is exactly why the $1m figure is not one size fits all.

1 Billion? what are you smoking?



Zero999 on 05 August 2013
badgenome said:
Zero999 said:

bolded3: please list that "a lot", cause wii u is getting most AAA multiplatforms for 2013.

Define "most". Because...

Injustice, RE: Revelations, Splinter Cell, Skylanders, Batman, Assassin's Creed, COD, Watch Dogs

vs.

No DmC. No Metal Gear Rising. No WWE. No Tiger Woods. No Tomb Raider. No BioShock Infinite. No Saints Row. No Madden. No Diablo III. No Battlefield. No FIFA. No South Park. No NFS: Rivals. And no GTA.

I'd hardly call the bolded AAA, especially the EA yearly crap.