How quickly we forget FF all the bravest aka all the crappest. You can make an argument for FF13 and even 14 if you want but its crap like that app whatever that shows how far its fallen.

I have faith in 15 because no one involved with the travesties that were the games i mentioned are involved in 15

yeah, not sure what you are getting at though.

They did that with 13 and suffered a massive backlash. 

Company hasn't learned. When your grand E3 reveal has 12 sec of real-time gameplay, you aren't ready to reveal. 

It was just a ploy to earn some goodwill from the fans. 

FF13 got backlash because it turned out not so good, this is nothing new for SE they usually use FMV to reveal their games as long as they turn out good(which until recently they mostly did) no one cares. 

This is wrong. What we were shown at E3 was in game footage mixed CGI. You cannot relate the 2. When FF13 series was revealed none of the games were in actual development. That's the polar opposite 15 which has been in development years.

Yeah, 12 seconds of in game footage. Rest was CG.

what a great 12 seconds it was, imagine how the rest looks

Most of trailer was in game? What are getting at right now?

somebody post the ff15 trailer. I cant do it cuz im not on a real computer..make sure it has link. I will gladly point out all in game footage.

*looks up* Oh. What? Oh FF is dead? Oh I see. Ok.
*goes back to playing FF*