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happydolphin on 29 July 2013
DaRev said:
happydolphin said:

They all have an answer when you take the time to look at them. It's just that most hearts are rebellious so the first reaction is to say "It's FALSE!". Hopefully if there is a sensible ear and we put in the hard work, all this stuff can be cleared up. I'm pretty sure a response page with simple and outlined responses to these contradictions exists somewhere.

Yep, keep fighting the good fight dude, as I'm sure one of these dudes must be listening to the truth.

Check it out. Why waste time when someone much more educated than us did the work for us already?

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm



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Fifaguy360 on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
DaRev said:
happydolphin said:

They all have an answer when you take the time to look at them. It's just that most hearts are rebellious so the first reaction is to say "It's FALSE!". Hopefully if there is a sensible ear and we put in the hard work, all this stuff can be cleared up. I'm pretty sure a response page with simple and outlined responses to these contradictions exists somewhere.

Yep, keep fighting the good fight dude, as I'm sure one of these dudes must be listening to the truth.

Check it out. Why waste time when someone much more educated than us did the work for us already?

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm

Unfortunately the website does the same thing (item 67). It says from  Abraham, but counts Abraham at the same time. From 6 oclock to 7 oclock is not 2 hours. So author(s) of Mathew counted wrong.



happydolphin on 29 July 2013
Fifaguy360 said:

Unfortunately the website does the same thing (item 67). It says from  Abraham, but counts Abraham at the same time. From 6 oclock to 7 oclock is not 2 hours. So author(s) of Mathew counted wrong.

It's inclusive. So yeah, 6 to 7 is 2 hours if you're inclusive of both 6-7 and 7-8.



DaRev on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:
DaRev said:
happydolphin said:

They all have an answer when you take the time to look at them. It's just that most hearts are rebellious so the first reaction is to say "It's FALSE!". Hopefully if there is a sensible ear and we put in the hard work, all this stuff can be cleared up. I'm pretty sure a response page with simple and outlined responses to these contradictions exists somewhere.

Yep, keep fighting the good fight dude, as I'm sure one of these dudes must be listening to the truth.

Check it out. Why waste time when someone much more educated than us did the work for us already?

http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/bible.htm

awesome, I've bookedmarked the link for the next fight in this neverending battle



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ultima on 29 July 2013
DaRev said:
ultima said:
DaRev said:
ultima said:
mrstickball said:
Adinnieken said:
Mr Khan said:
happydolphin said:

 

 

The new testament is a very small, cherry picked subset of the said manuscripts. Even still, there is a vast amount of contadiction in the new testament. The bible, new or old testament, is not an accurate account of history.

(At bold) That does not have to be true. A christian outright rejects the notion of Mohammed being a prophet, whereas muslims say that Jesus was a prophet.

@ bold: Like what? Give some examples,...please.

Like the genealogy of Joseph, early life of Jesus, end of Judas. There are more, these are all I can remember off the top of my head.

And I gotta love the story about Jesus and the fig tree. Jesus apparently destroyed a fig tree because it had no figs, despite the fact that it wasn't the season for the tree to have figs. This story is recounted in (at least) two places in the bible. And I remember there being some kind of contradiction between these two stories. This story just makes me laugh.

Dude, i'm not going to do your work for you. You need to quote specific verses from the NT that contradict each other. That's how this is suppose to work I think. So simply saying the e.g. "early life of Jesus" is not much help. Now if you can't be bothered to find contradicting passages of the bible, I understand.

Excuse me? My work? You asked, I provided. You could stop being lazy, open up the book you so adore, find the parts which I mentioned and read for yourself. Or, if you want me to try to dig them out for you, you could at least ask nicely. Really dude? Where are your manners?

That said, I have not picked up these books in a really long time, so I can't give you an in-depth analysis (honestly, not that the bible is even worth such an analysis). But here are some things I alluded to.

  • Matthew 2 claims that Jesus was born during the time of King Herod. Luke 2 claims that Jesus was born around the time Emperor Augustus called for a census to be taken. King Herod died in 4 BCE. The aforementioned census was taken in years 6/7 ACE. There's around a 10 year discrepancy there. Moreover, Luke asserts that the census sought to register everyone in the world; that is not the case, as the purpose of the census was to register only the citizens of the Roman Empire, for taxation purposes. Not to mention that much of the world was undiscovered by the Romans at that time. On top of that, Luke claims that the citizens had to return to their own towns for the census. This is also ludicrous.
  • Matthew 1 and Luke 3 provide two very different genealogies for Joseph. The names in the paternal family tree are different. Moreover, the number of generations from Abraham to Joseph are vastly different in the two accounts (54 versus 39 by my count).
  • Death of Judas: Matthew 28 states that Judas hangs himself. But according to Acts 1, he falls in a field he buys, and dies. Funnily enough, it's described as his body getting torn and his guts spilling out. LOL!
I assure you, this is a very small subset of contradictions in the new testament. You should sit down and read the book yourself sometime.


           

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ultima on 29 July 2013

My bad, double post.



           

happydolphin on 29 July 2013
ultima said:
DaRev said:

Dude, i'm not going to do your work for you. You need to quote specific verses from the NT that contradict each other. That's how this is suppose to work I think. So simply saying the e.g. "early life of Jesus" is not much help. Now if you can't be bothered to find contradicting passages of the bible, I understand.

Excuse me? My work? You asked, I provided. You could stop being lazy, open up the book you so adore, find the parts which I mentioned and read for yourself. Or, if you want me to try to dig them out for you, you could at least ask nicely. Really dude? Where are your manners?

That said, I have not picked up these books in a really long time, so I can't give you an in-depth analysis (honestly, not that the bible is even worth such an analysis). But here are some things I alluded to.

 

  • Matthew 2 claims that Jesus was born during the time of King Herod. Luke 2 claims that Jesus was born around the time Emperor Augustus called for a census to be taken. King Herod died in 4 BCE. The aforementioned census was taken in years 6/7 ACE. There's around a 10 year discrepancy there. Moreover, Luke asserts that the census sought to register everyone in the world; that is not the case, as the purpose of the census was to register only the citizens of the Roman Empire, for taxation purposes. Not to mention that much of the world was undiscovered by the Romans at that time. On top of that, Luke claims that the citizens had to return to their own towns for the census. This is also ludicrous.
  • Matthew 1 and Luke 3 provide two very different genealogies for Joseph. The names are in the paternal family tree are different. Moreover, the number of generations from Abraham to Joseph are vastly different in the two accounts (39 versus 54 by my count).
  • Death of Judas: Matthew 28 states that Judas hangs himself. But according to Acts 1, he falls in a field he buys, and dies. Funnily enough, it's described as his body getting torn and his guts spilled. LOL!
I assure you, this is a very small subset of contradictions in the new testament. You should sit down and read the book yourself sometime.

 

@bold. Seriously? It's an expression. Can you just please chill? We're all smart here, nobody is more intelligent than anybody else. Let's all just respect each other and work the kinks out, k? That goes for me, darev and everyone else here too.



Screamapillar on 29 July 2013
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Aslan handled himself really well there. He was calm, collected, and presented his credentials clearly.

Obviously the anchor had her talking points and wasn't about to deviate from them even if the line of questioning became increasingly awkward and unproductive given Aslan's answers.


This.  Absolutely right.  An extremely embarrassing interview for Fox.



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ultima on 29 July 2013
happydolphin said:

@bold. Seriously? It's an expression. Can you just please chill? We're all smart here, nobody is more intelligent than anybody else. Let's all just respect each other and work the kinks out, k?

What are you talking about?



           

Osc89 on 29 July 2013

Great image - http://sciencebasedlife.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/a-visual-representation-of-biblical-contradictions/



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