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coolguy on 04 March 2014

Xbone won't sell in Japan.they will be lucky to sell 300 a week. Ms should not launch thete



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Spade on 04 March 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Slade6alpha said:
Damn Ryuu and Shikamaru are making me look so bad at Crimson Dragon, lol!

You finally got it? Enjoy, it's a good game. I really hope it sells well enough for Yukio Futatsugi to make the full retail RPG version of Crimson Dragon that he wants to make. 

I've actually had it for awhile, but school got in the way. I really like it actually. I'm really not getting the criticisms reviewers had for it. It's got click controls, graphics aren't the best, but the game was a 360 game.

Your dragon's a beast though, lol. You got any tips on feeding it? I still have the first given dragon, like level 7. I'm hoping skills transfer, but I'm guessing it won't. Also enjoy seeing the scores from online users (Ryuu and you are the only ones who my list though).

Overall, so far, solid 8. It was like $15 right? Can't go wrong with that. Also not sure how long it is...



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007BondAgent on 04 March 2014
shikamaru317 said:
coolguy said:
Xbone won't sell in Japan.they will be lucky to sell 300 a week. Ms should not launch thete

Chances are it will sell at least as well as the 360 did there, possibly more if they support it with enough Japanese exclusives. The 360 did ok in Japan until Microsoft stopped supporting it with Japanese exclusives.

It's not going to sell anywhere near the 360.

  • The console market is in massive decline
  • Xbox brand has been DOA in japan for years
  • Microsoft won't be moneyhatting every japanese game this time
  • 360 was much cheaper then the PS3
  • Most Japanese gamer dislike the xbox brand (this is fact, don't even bother fighting it)
  • It's launching much later then the PS4

It still baffles me, that microsoft is even bothering with a country that has no interest in their console, they should be focusing on europe, atleast they have a chance there.



deadly2choke on 04 March 2014
JayWood2010 said:
deadly2choke said:

posted this on psnation and i think it needs to be posted here too

 

 

after reading the gaf thread....and knowing that even jucy j has an oscar makes it even worse 


The departed xD  Prob the best movie ive ever seen

what? man you gotta start watching more movies then :P



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007BondAgent on 04 March 2014
shikamaru317 said:
007BondAgent said:
shikamaru317 said:
coolguy said:
Xbone won't sell in Japan.they will be lucky to sell 300 a week. Ms should not launch thete

Chances are it will sell at least as well as the 360 did there, possibly more if they support it with enough Japanese exclusives. The 360 did ok in Japan until Microsoft stopped supporting it with Japanese exclusives.

It's not going to sell anywhere near the 360.

  • The console market is in massive decline
  • Xbox brand has been DOA in japan for years
  • Microsoft won't be moneyhatting every japanese game this time
  • 360 was much cheaper then the PS3
  • Most Japanese gamer dislike the xbox brand (this is fact, don't even bother fighting it)
  • It's launching much later then the PS4

It still baffles me, that microsoft is even bothering with a country that has no interest in their console, they should be focusing on europe, atleast they have a chance there.

 

  • I wouldn't say massive decline. Yes mobile is becoming increasingly popular in Japan, but the PS4 and Wii U are doing alright there so far.
  • Xbox has only been dead in Japan the last few years because Microsoft stopped supporting it with Japanese exclusives, exclusives are everything. 
  • What makes you think that? If they did it last time, why wouldn't they do it again? They certainly have the money to do it, and they've already announced that they've signed Japanese exclusives onto the Xbox One. 
  • Only at the beginning, PS3's price fell to within $50 of 360 later on. And there's no guarantee that Microsoft won't achieve price parity or even undercut the PS4 in the future. 
  • I think that statement is a fallacy. The casuals gamers weren't particularly fond of the Xbox, but many core gamers in Japan liked it, hense 1.6m in sales. That's what the article the headline speaks of was about, changing the Xbox One's image so that it appeals to both casual and core gamers. 
  • I wouldn't say much later, it could release as soon as April if ntkrnl's leak was accurate. A Microsoft Japan spokesman recently said they'd be announcing their Japanese release plans soon. 
An image change that focuses on Kinect games, indie support, and entertainment features to appeal to the Japanese casuals, plus good core Japanese exclusive support to appeal to the japanese core gamers, and the Xbox One can do pretty well in Japan. The 360 only had 1-2 good Japanese exclusive per year at most, imagine what the Xbox One could do with 3-4 good Japanese exclusives per year. 

 

 

What exclusive could microsoft possibly capture, that would even entice japanese gamers?

Sony has a new tales game coming to the PS4, they have a new yakuza and idolm@ster game coming to the PS4, they have the new gaundum game coming to the PS4, they have a partnership with square enix for kingdom hearts and final fantasy, and i wouldn't be surprised if those games were exclusives in japan. All the biggest games will be on the PS4, While early last gen, all the biggest games were on xbox, besides final fantasy.

 

Look at it this way, the xbox 360 managed 1.6m with a year headstart, big exclusives from 2005-2009 and a cheaper pricepoint, how could the xbox one match that, when it's coming out later, it won't have the big games and it doesn't have that headstart. It's just not going to happen, hell. I don't even think the PS4 will match PS3's sales.



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007BondAgent on 04 March 2014
shikamaru317 said:
007BondAgent said:

What exclusive could microsoft possibly capture, that would even entice japanese gamers?

Sony has a new tales game coming to the PS4, they have a new yakuza and idolm@ster game coming to the PS4, they have the new gaundum game coming to the PS4, they have a partnership with square enix for kingdom hearts and final fantasy, and i wouldn't be surprised if those games were exclusives in japan. All the biggest games will be on the PS4, While early last gen, all the biggest games were on xbox, besides final fantasy.

It's not about a single big exclusive, it's about a healthy regular lineup of medium popularity and niche exclusives. That's what the 360 had until Microsoft cut off that support for some unkown reason, they lost about 3 years of 360 sales in Japan as a result, they would have sold over 2.5m if they had kept the stream of exclusives going into 2013.

Like I said, kinect+indie+entertainment features to get the Japanese casuals interested, a healthy schedule of moderate and niche exclusives (and maybe one big exclusive if they can swing it) to get the core gamers interested, and they can at least match the 360's sales. Microsoft is already working on just that strategy it seems, they've already signed several Japanese exclusives which they'll be announcing soon, they had several Japanese indie devs express interest in releasing on the Xbox One back at TGS, they've improved the Kinect so that it will work in smaller Japanese living rooms. 


Why would any dev release their game exclusively on the xbox one, when it will sell 5times more on a playstation console, this is why microsoft most likely stopped getting those exclusives, because they had to spend alot of money to compensate those lost sales. And when they did release those games, they ended up bombing anyways, so it wasn't even worth the money.

I think the xbox one will find it's niche audience in japan, but i don't expect it to sell over 600k lifetime there. In fact, i think the xbox one will be more like the original xbox, it will have those few exclusives, but it'll never do much.



Nintentacle on 04 March 2014

^
Awesome idea.



Jaywood2010 on 04 March 2014

Guys learn to ignore people who repeatedly come in here to start stuff




       

endimion on 04 March 2014

what are you referring to Jay??



Wright on 04 March 2014
007BondAgent said:


Why would any dev release their game exclusively on the xbox one, when it will sell 5times more on a playstation console,


But, this statement is not true to every japanese dev. That's why CAVE schumps were exclusive to 360, that's why Swery65 is making a Xbox One exclusive and not Ps4 exclusive (look at Deadly Premonition sales), and that's why overall eroge visual novels, like Steins;gate, had an incredible cult following on MS machines in Japan.

 

Sure you can say Tales sell more, despite Vesperia moving great numbers (not in Japan, though, so that's where Bamco aims for), but its not always releasing on what console will sell more, but the fact that both can be profitable.

 

Don't you wonder why Atlus is releasing Ultimax on 360 too, despite the low sales of Persona 4 Arena?