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kinisking said:
crissindahouse said:

Well, I said it before, if MS could manage to increase the eco-system for Xbox games it would be even better and it would be totally unimportant if MS would sell 20, 50, or 100m Xbox consoles. Those who have a gaming PC don't need an Xbox anymore and XBO would get more games with a fusion of XBO and PC gaming with Windows 10.

In the end everything would be just better for XB and PC owners if there wouldn't be just one thing, how shall it work to play with controller against keyboard+mouse players in competitive modes? That doesn't sound possible to manage to get a fair experience but for pretty much everything else a fusion of Xbox and PC gaming (if that is even what MS considers) would be also good for Xbox players even if Xbox sales would decrease (which I even doubt to be honest). It will only increase the number of users in this eco-system and it will increase the number of games released on PC and XB consoles.

But yeah, that keyboard vs controller problem is a huge problem even if you can be still better than the average m+k player with a controller. 

If i buy a console i want exclusives. Other wise why the hell would i have bought a console over a pc. If xbox games go to pc, then i wasted my money in buying an xbox one instead of a pc. or even a ps4.

Well, then sell your XBO and play the games on PC, MS would know that there are some who would do that and it wouldn't be a problem for them since it would be the same eco-system just on different devices but those who still want to use a console instead of PC for games (which should be the majority of console gamers) would profit from that because it would increase the userbase and with that also the support from different companies as a whole. 

It would help Xbox One and would be good for those who would still prefer to play on XBO even if a few people less would buy one. 

But that is all only theory, not only do we not know which big Xbox games will come to PC (maybe all, maybe pretty much none) but we also don't know how MS would handle a "fusion" between Xbox and PC gaming with Windows 10.

Not sure if some of you still don't realise it but pretty much every market is going in the direction that you can use your stuff on different devices and so on... It's not as if SOny wouldn't have similar plans, streaming PS3 or older games on different devices is only the beginning. 



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crissindahouse said:
kinisking said:
crissindahouse said:

Well, I said it before, if MS could manage to increase the eco-system for Xbox games it would be even better and it would be totally unimportant if MS would sell 20, 50, or 100m Xbox consoles. Those who have a gaming PC don't need an Xbox anymore and XBO would get more games with a fusion of XBO and PC gaming with Windows 10.

In the end everything would be just better for XB and PC owners if there wouldn't be just one thing, how shall it work to play with controller against keyboard+mouse players in competitive modes? That doesn't sound possible to manage to get a fair experience but for pretty much everything else a fusion of Xbox and PC gaming (if that is even what MS considers) would be also good for Xbox players even if Xbox sales would decrease (which I even doubt to be honest). It will only increase the number of users in this eco-system and it will increase the number of games released on PC and XB consoles.

But yeah, that keyboard vs controller problem is a huge problem even if you can be still better than the average m+k player with a controller. 

If i buy a console i want exclusives. Other wise why the hell would i have bought a console over a pc. If xbox games go to pc, then i wasted my money in buying an xbox one instead of a pc. or even a ps4.

Well, then sell your XBO and play the games on PC, MS would know that there are some who would do that and it wouldn't be a problem for them since it would be the same eco-system just on different devices but those who still want to use a console instead of PC for games (which should be the majority of console gamers) would profit from that because it would increase the userbase and with that also the support from different companies as a whole. 

It would help Xbox One and would be good for those who would still prefer to play on XBO even if a few people less would buy one. 

But that is all only theory, not only do we not know which big Xbox games will come to PC (maybe all, maybe pretty much none) but we also don't know how MS would handle a "fusion" between Xbox and PC gaming with Windows 10

yeah thats what i would do  most  likely but it would decrease the value of the xbox one im selling to people. But this still endangers their ecosystem becuase a lot of people that were going to buy the xbox one would turn to the ps4 instead of a pc or xbox one.  im just really hoping that ms doesnt give them all our exclusive because imo that would suck but i understand why you or some other people would like it.



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

shikamaru317 said:
TiagoCosta said:

Horror games aren't my thing at all, I avoid them like a plague. 

(Not just games, anything horror)

I'm not a big fan of horror either. I don't watch very many horror movies, nor do I play many horror games. Might play Dying Light though, it looks good. And I do watch Let's Play's of Horror games on Youtube.

not a big fan either. I dont understand why people enjoy getting scared so much xD and is dyling light a horror game?



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

kinisking said:

yeah thats what i would do  most  likely but it would decrease the value of the xbox one im selling to people. But this still endangers their ecosystem becuase a lot of people that were going to buy the xbox one would turn to the ps4 instead of a pc or xbox one.  im just really hoping that ms doesnt give them all our exclusive because imo that would suck but i understand why you or some other people would like it.

People wouldn't turn to PS4 "instead of XBO or PC". That makes no sense at all. If people would stop to buy an XBO because the games would be also on PC, then they would only do it if they would play them on PC instead (I as example would be probably one of them). Why should anyone be like "ohh, Halo, Gears, Forza and all the games for which you need an XBO will be on PC, now I won't buy an XBO and also no PC"? I mean, if someone buys an XBO for the games he needs this console for he doesn't stop to care about the games just because they aren't only on one device. He just changes maybe the device he can play these games on.

Some who already own a gaming PC would maybe buy a PS4 instead of an XBO now but that wouldn't be really a huge problem since the difference between PS4 and XBO sales wouldn't be that important anymore. 

But hey, I still don't see how MS would manage it if that is even their plan so let's just wait and see^^



crissindahouse said:
kinisking said:

yeah thats what i would do  most  likely but it would decrease the value of the xbox one im selling to people. But this still endangers their ecosystem becuase a lot of people that were going to buy the xbox one would turn to the ps4 instead of a pc or xbox one.  im just really hoping that ms doesnt give them all our exclusive because imo that would suck but i understand why you or some other people would like it.

People wouldn't turn to PS4 "instead of XBO or PC". That makes no sense at all. If people would stop to buy an XBO because the games would be also on PC, then they would only do it if they would play them on PC instead (I as example would be probably one of them). Why should anyone be like "ohh, Halo, Gears, Forza and all the games for which you need an XBO will be on PC, now I won't buy an XBO and also no PC"? I mean, if someone buys an XBO for the games he needs this console for he doesn't stop to care about the games just because they aren't only on one device. He just changes maybe the device he can play these games on.

Some who already own a gaming PC would maybe buy a PS4 instead of an XBO now but that wouldn't be really a huge problem since the difference between PS4 and XBO sales wouldn't be that important anymore. 

But hey, I still don't see how MS would manage it if that is even their plan so let's just wait and see^^

Makes all the sense to me, I would be one of those. 

I can only support 1 system(PC, xbox or ps), I don't own any PC. But between having true exclusives or console exclusives... I choose the first choice. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
kinisking said:

not a big fan either. I dont understand why people enjoy getting scared so much xD and is dyling light a horror game?

Nope. It's got zombies and stuff in but it's more of a first person action (possibly with RPG elements) than it is a horror game.

haha i thought so but the way shikamaru said it made me think that it as a horror game lol 

Edit: just saw his response to yours. apparently at night its more of a horror game



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

crissindahouse said:
kinisking said:

yeah thats what i would do  most  likely but it would decrease the value of the xbox one im selling to people. But this still endangers their ecosystem becuase a lot of people that were going to buy the xbox one would turn to the ps4 instead of a pc or xbox one.  im just really hoping that ms doesnt give them all our exclusive because imo that would suck but i understand why you or some other people would like it.

People wouldn't turn to PS4 "instead of XBO or PC". That makes no sense at all. If people would stop to buy an XBO because the games would be also on PC, then they would only do it if they would play them on PC instead (I as example would be probably one of them). Why should anyone be like "ohh, Halo, Gears, Forza and all the games for which you need an XBO will be on PC, now I won't buy an XBO and also no PC"? I mean, if someone buys an XBO for the games he needs this console for he doesn't stop to care about the games just because they aren't only on one device. He just changes maybe the device he can play these games on.

Some who already own a gaming PC would maybe buy a PS4 instead of an XBO now but that wouldn't be really a huge problem since the difference between PS4 and XBO sales wouldn't be that important anymore. 

But hey, I still don't see how MS would manage it if that is even their plan so let's just wait and see^^

It's just how people work man. When buying a console they want true exclusives. even if they are only going to buy a console and the only way they can get those games is on the xbox one. if they know its going to pc it's less value in the consumers eyes. It'll generate a lot of bad talk too. ps fanboys already litter the youtube comments and everywhere else everytime an exclusive is announced that its coming to pc. Or they'll just play it on pc. I think a lot of xbox gamers are tired of this and if it becomes true then a lot would get angry at ms. But yeah let's wait and see.



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

shikamaru317 said:
Just saw the global software numbers VGC posted today. CoD:AW is now the first game to hit 4m on Xbox One.


i just feel like either xbox ones or ps4s is over tracked 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

TiagoCosta said:
crissindahouse said:
kinisking said:

yeah thats what i would do  most  likely but it would decrease the value of the xbox one im selling to people. But this still endangers their ecosystem becuase a lot of people that were going to buy the xbox one would turn to the ps4 instead of a pc or xbox one.  im just really hoping that ms doesnt give them all our exclusive because imo that would suck but i understand why you or some other people would like it.

People wouldn't turn to PS4 "instead of XBO or PC". That makes no sense at all. If people would stop to buy an XBO because the games would be also on PC, then they would only do it if they would play them on PC instead (I as example would be probably one of them). Why should anyone be like "ohh, Halo, Gears, Forza and all the games for which you need an XBO will be on PC, now I won't buy an XBO and also no PC"? I mean, if someone buys an XBO for the games he needs this console for he doesn't stop to care about the games just because they aren't only on one device. He just changes maybe the device he can play these games on.

Some who already own a gaming PC would maybe buy a PS4 instead of an XBO now but that wouldn't be really a huge problem since the difference between PS4 and XBO sales wouldn't be that important anymore. 

But hey, I still don't see how MS would manage it if that is even their plan so let's just wait and see^^

Makes all the sense to me, I would be one of those. 

I can only support 1 system(PC, xbox or ps), I don't own any PC. But between having true exclusives or console exclusives... I choose the first choice. 

Well, then your decision makes no sense at all. You would buy an XBO with exclusives, but if these games would be also on PC, you would buy a PS instead of an XBO...or PC. I mean, what exactly does it change for you that the games you would buy an Xbox for would be also on another platform you don't and won't own?

Sry but I just can't understand the logic behind people who think like that.  Does the game make more fun if you know that people on another platform don't play it? What is the reason that people like you seem to need the feeling that the device you own has stuff only people who own the same device can use? I mean, if you like the PS games more it's all good and you should already be a PS owner even if the XB games will be XBO exclusives but what you are saying is that you would start to have more fun with PS instead of XB just because the PS games wouldn't be also on PC, a platform you don't use to play games with...

But one is for sure, you would be in a very small minority with that thinking, most interested in the Xbox IPs would simply still buy an XBO if they wouldn't like to play on PC and the PC players would play them with their PC. 



crissindahouse said:
TiagoCosta said:

Makes all the sense to me, I would be one of those. 

I can only support 1 system(PC, xbox or ps), I don't own any PC. But between having true exclusives or console exclusives... I choose the first choice. 

Well, then your decision makes no sense at all. You would buy an XBO with exclusives, but if these games would be also on PC, you would buy a PS instead of an XBO...or PC. I mean, what exactly does it change for you that the games you would buy an Xbox for would be also on another platform you don't and won't own?

Sry but I just can't understand the logic behind people who think like that.  Does the game make more fun if you know that people on another platform don't play it? What is the reason that people like you seem to need the feeling that the device you own has stuff only people who own the same device can use? I mean, if you like the PS games more it's all good and you should already be a PS owner even if the XB games will be XBO exclusives but what you are saying is that you would start to have more fun with PS instead of XB just because the PS games wouldn't be also on PC, a platform you don't use to play games with...

But one is for sure, you would be in a very small minority with that thinking, most interested in the Xbox IPs would simply still buy an XBO if they wouldn't like to play on PC. 

I find better value on games not on other systems, I like to feel like my money is the most well spent possible. 

I've said it before, the only MS ip I can't live with is Gears. 1 game isn't that much. Is there any ps one I can't live with? Persona, it isn't even theirs, but MS doesn't care for jp games lately. The ps appeal are the jp games that MS should also have but doesn't care to try get them, xbox comes with the best (imo) western games(I dislike all ps western ips), but at the end of the day I play more jp than not.

In conclusion, at the moment, microsoft vs sony is 50-50 for me but I dislike sony quite a lot for killing sega. So I tend to microsoft, but that can easily change 'cause...

...I would follow SEGA to death, not microsoft.