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TiagoCosta on 06 December 2014
shikamaru317 said:

Potentially popular 3rd party games that are rumored to be in development, 1 of which MS should try to get exclusively on Xbox One in order to counter SF5:

-Fallout 4
-Red Dead 3
-Bully 2
-Epic's game based on Samaritan tech demo
-Bioware's rumored Star Wars game

Can you guys think of any others?

Time to open that checkbook Phil.

-Cyberpunk 2077

-shenmue 3 



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crissindahouse on 06 December 2014

I like that Phil believes own exclusives from own studios are important but I don't like the attitude he seems to have with that SF tweet. It's like "if we have own games in specific genres we don't care so much if Sony will buy games in that genre away from Xbox"

Just because Xbox has KI doesn't mean that fighting game fans don't want more than this game and that this isn't a huge loss because it is if we think about fighting game fans. SF is much more popular, you can't just say "hey guys, just play KI instead". No, he should say "we won't accept that games get bought away from Xbox that easily"

I'm 100% sure that a friend of mine who was going to buy an XBO the next months will buy a PS4 now just because of this and the same will happen if they will let other games go to only PS. 

The same attitude is the reason why Sony got that huge deal with Bungie and Destiny. MS had also the chance for such a bundle and all but no, just because they have Halo they are like "who cares if Sony will get a nice deal for a potential huge franchise"

MS can obviously not secure everything only for them but please don't act as if it isn't a big deal to lose games which would normally release on XBox.



OfficerRaichu15 on 06 December 2014

phill just make viva pinata 3 and Ill love you forever



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riderz13371 on 06 December 2014
jlmurph2 said:
At least we get Tomb Raider lol

Everybody gets Tomb Raider! Crystal Dynamics is nice like that



riderz13371 on 06 December 2014
shikamaru317 said:
true_fan said:
MSFT should go for the Samartian since they have a good rapport with Epic, also DX12 Unreal 4 would be amazing.

Yeah, Samaritan is probably their best bet, either that or Bioware's Star Wars game (especially if that game is KOTOR 3). It would probably cost more than Phil would be willing to pay to get Fallout 4 or one of Rockstar's games, since those games sell very well. They have a rapport with both Epic and EA/Bioware, previous games from those 2 have been exclusive to MS platforms in the past.

Wasn't Samaritan a tech demo or something? I don't think they make games from those but it would be cool if they did.



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crissindahouse on 06 December 2014
riderz13371 said:
shikamaru317 said:
true_fan said:
MSFT should go for the Samartian since they have a good rapport with Epic, also DX12 Unreal 4 would be amazing.

Yeah, Samaritan is probably their best bet, either that or Bioware's Star Wars game (especially if that game is KOTOR 3). It would probably cost more than Phil would be willing to pay to get Fallout 4 or one of Rockstar's games, since those games sell very well. They have a rapport with both Epic and EA/Bioware, previous games from those 2 have been exclusive to MS platforms in the past.

Wasn't Samaritan a tech demo or something? I don't think they make games from those but it would be cool if they did.

I think almost all their tech demos could be pretty nice games. Also that with that demonic knight and the volcano 



riderz13371 on 06 December 2014
shikamaru317 said:

Just watched the UC4 gameplay demo. My opinion:

Gameplay: Pacing for the demo seemed off to me, the first half was literally just slow paced exploration. Finally we got into some action about halfway through. Shooting mechanics looked pretty good, and the use of the multi-tiered environment to evade or get the jump on enemies seemed really good (that was the one aspect of Tomb Raider reboot's gameplay that I found lacking, not enough verticality, hopefully something they'll fix in Rise of the Tomb Raider).

Graphics: Let's start with the good, the foliage looked excellent, some of the best I've ever seen in a game. Character models looked good but not amazing. Now the bad, the rock textures looked really rough to me, and due to the large number of cliffs in this demo this issue really stood out for me. Hopefully those will be improved since this is still pre-alpha.

Story: Very little in the demo. Frankly I have no clue what this game is about since I've never played the previous games.

BTW, I'm posting about this in this thread because my opinion of the game isn't super high, frankly I'd probably get attacked by Sony fans if I posted this elsewhere. I know there are several Naughty Dog fans in this thread who probably won't attack me for having a differing opinion, so that's why I posted it here xD  Please forgive me mods.

Hmmm not all Sony fans are rabid fanboys you know =P

Here's my take on your opinion, as a crazy Sony fanboy lol:

Rock textures are rough? That's a good thing right? Just kidding. I agree, and hopefully they can improve upon that. The FPS was stuttering a bit in the beginning but frankly I'm kind of happy they aren't bullshitting us with the footage. No game will get a rock solid 30 FPS when it's a year out from releasing, working on having a solid fps is one of the last things to do in the development stage. 

The foliage looks orgasmic. I don't know why but I always love lush green vegetation in games (I loved FC3 for this) and this game was full of it. Everything seemed really detailed and I love how they reacted to the wind as well as when Drake would pass through them. 

Not sure why you felt the pacing was off. Would you have preferred it for it to just start off with him shooting people or something? I really enjoy the exploration/platforming levels of Uncharted (personal preference) and it was cool to see some of the new equipment Drake has at his disposal that he can use to traverse the environment. I also loved the gun play, The gun sound had a real punch to them and I loved seeing the enemies fly off the cliff whenever they would get shot.

In terms of story, well I don't know what you expected. I think this was just a short demo for people to see how the game is coming along. Story is difficult to do in one short demo of a game, that's saved up for trailers where you can cut to different segments of the game and whatnot. 

-Signed, Crazy Sony fanboy.



TiagoCosta on 06 December 2014
shikamaru317 said:
crissindahouse said:

I like that Phil believes own exclusives from own studios are important but I don't like the attitude he seems to have with that SF tweet. It's like "if we have own games in specific genres we don't care so much if Sony will buy games in that genre away from Xbox"

Just because Xbox has KI doesn't mean that fighting game fans don't want more than this game and that this isn't a huge loss becaus eit is if we think about fighting game fans. SF is much more popular, you can't just say "hey guys, just play KI instead". No, he should say "we won't accept that games get bought away from Xbox that easily"

The same attitude is the reason why Sony got that huge deal with Bungie and Destiny. MS had also the chance for such a bundle and all but no, just because they have Halo they are like "who cares if Sony will get a nice deal for a potential huge franchise"

I think he's just trying to be political with his response, I seriously doubt that he's ok with Sony getting it as an exclusive, Street Fighter 4 sold 4 million on PS3 according to VGC, so SF5 as a PS4 exclusive could sell 5m, no way Phil is ok with that. Chances are he's already planning a retaliation for that loss. Sadly there's not much they could do as far as Fighting games go, Tekken 7 and MK10 ARE already announced for PS4 so it would likely be too hard to get one of them as an XB1 exclusive, and none of the other multiplat fighting series are popular enough to counter SF5. They could maybe try and get both DoA 6 and Soulcalibur 6 as XB1 exclusives, the two combined should be about as big as SF5.

Getting the 3D fighter crowd could be interesting. 



Spade on 06 December 2014
shikamaru317 said:
crissindahouse said:

I like that Phil believes own exclusives from own studios are important but I don't like the attitude he seems to have with that SF tweet. It's like "if we have own games in specific genres we don't care so much if Sony will buy games in that genre away from Xbox"

Just because Xbox has KI doesn't mean that fighting game fans don't want more than this game and that this isn't a huge loss becaus eit is if we think about fighting game fans. SF is much more popular, you can't just say "hey guys, just play KI instead". No, he should say "we won't accept that games get bought away from Xbox that easily"

The same attitude is the reason why Sony got that huge deal with Bungie and Destiny. MS had also the chance for such a bundle and all but no, just because they have Halo they are like "who cares if Sony will get a nice deal for a potential huge franchise"

I think he's just trying to be political with his response, I seriously doubt that he's ok with Sony getting it as an exclusive, Street Fighter 4 sold 4 million on PS3 according to VGC, so SF5 as a PS4 exclusive could sell 5m, no way Phil is ok with that. Chances are he's already planning a retaliation for that loss. Sadly there's not much they could do as far as Fighting games go, Tekken 7 and MK10 ARE already announced for PS4 so it would likely be too hard to get one of them as an XB1 exclusive, and none of the other multiplat fighting series are popular enough to counter SF5. They could maybe try and get both DoA 6 and Soulcalibur 6 as XB1 exclusives, the two combined should be about as big as SF5.

This is exactly what I'm thinking as well Criss. I mean he can't be completely okay with just having PS take away a game from Xbox, but it's a way to build confidence in your own studio. But I do see where you are coming from. 

MS needs to be making exclusive 3rd party deals. It's just going to be the nature of this generation. 



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TiagoCosta on 06 December 2014

Yeah, no way he's ok with SF being ps4/pc only.

He needs to respond.