What did he say? Also murph you've been taking it out on sunset this past week, so jealous my copy is in the mail somewhere.

well yes, Sony did also some  stuff for/with indies the years before PS4 release but I think they got crazy about that since PS4 and I don't think it's only because they like indie so much. It's also not as if indie games did anything special on PS3 except maybe for Minecraft, Journey and a few other games.

That MS did the same because of a lack of retail exclusives is possible and I'm also not surprised that Nintendo is like "we love Indies so much " right now since they have also the problem with too less retail games (but for them it's not about own games but multiplat games). If Nintendo would get all the multiplat games and would have the games of their own studios they would probably still be like "meh indies"

But I don't think that Sony became the "king of Indie- or small downloadable games" already last gen. Yes they got exclusive games which got great scores but except for Journey and a few others many weren't really so super interesting for many people. I think many revealed sales numbers and leaderboards of downloadable games  suggest that they sold better on 360 and that MS had more small games which people really cared aboutwith stuff like Trials, Super Meat Boy, Geometry Wars, Battleblock Theater,  Splosion Man, The Maw, Pinball FX, Mark of the Ninja, Bastion, State of Decay,  Shadow Complex and so on.

Yes some aren't indies and some went  from indie to not indie when MS bought the studio but thats not the point, it's about which company got these small downloadable games people want (If Sony would have bought ThatGameCompany it woud be still the same games) and I really doubt that Sony had an advantage with PS3 vs. 360 in that department. It's not only about the socres games get but to see which games are interesting for the market and even if a game like State of Decay doesn't have the best scores it is a game people really wanted and which most gamers would choose above a game like FLower.

Now on PS4 Sony got a huge advantage at least after the first year.. 

i never had an issue with sprint and if the leaks are right then it will atleast have a drawback.

but i think we should atleast wait till we see footage or a beta before we say the game will suck

Who said it sucked?  On paper it actually sounds really good

no one i just know that once footage comes out there will be people saying it will due to sprint 

well, it can be annoying to see some guy running away when you shoot on him just because he can but couldn't in the previous games. If there is as example a bridge between two buildings it was very dangerous in the past to run over it at the wrong moment because people could start to shoot on you when you are in the middle so that you didn't have enough speed to run in one of the buildings before you got killed.

With sprinting it's possible which also means that even people who don't  check the environment as much will survive from time to time when they shouldn't. 

Sure, you could run after these people but that means you have to leave your own spot to get someone even if he was the guy who made the mistake so either he runs away and you can't kill him fast enough or you run after him to still kill him and you leave your own spot you are controlling which is obviously also bad. 

Map control and "thinking before acting" is a big part of Halo and sprint definitely works against this so I really hope to see that using sprint will get a drawback. I know that many people find Halo too slow nowadays but if they really have to make Halo fast there should be at least a punishment if you use your speed because you made a mistake. 

People say COD is also fast and that is what most love nowadays (which is probably true) but the enemies die also faster there if you hit them correct. No "ohh ten meters till the next buidling and someone with good aim shoots on me I just run away"

DAMN YOU TO HELL MURPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M SO MAD. I'M DONE.

lol It was a pretty easy 1000/1000

Ka-pi96 said: Murph 100%ed Sunset before Slade?

lol and he got the game earlier than me

I hate everyone in this thread. Especially you Ryuu, no I hate Noble more.