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I just bought 2 games that I've been eyeing.
Binary Domain and Kameo!! Can't wait to play them.



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I went to Gamestop for FH2 but they were out of copies so I just went treasure hunting.



shikamaru317 said:

I think he's referring to the fact that Vesperia is the 2nd bestselling Tales game in the west. In other words, they're alienating a pretty large number of potential buyers in the west by ignoring Xbox.


Well, I guess. Baba said something about how they felt that the core fanbase was on PS. *shrugs*



shikamaru317 said:
Goatseye said:

Maybe the money to stick to a single platform is more rewarding.

Yeah, Sony has to be paying them for exclusivity. Vesperia sold 500k units (not including digital) outside of Japan, that's alot of potential sales that they're passing up by sticking with single platform development. Assuming that the average profit per copy sold was about $15, that's $7.5 million in profit they're passing up per game. And there's no way that the costs of porting between 360/PS3 are that high, and porting between PS4/XB1 is easier and cheaper than porting between 360/PS3 was.


I thought it was their choice? Also, didn't Persona 4 Golden do like 800K?



JayWood2010 said:
Slade6alpha said:
Reported you Jay for flaming/trolling/harrassing Lost Odyssey for the upteenth time.
GET EM STAR!!!
:(

Oh you dont think he is going to moderate me do you?  YOu do know he is the one that told me to put it in the poll right? ;P

Jay has a point!

Either way I am happy as LO2 is winning!

That said, tough poll, I am pumped for Versus (er...FFXV) and KH3 as well!



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shikamaru317 said:
gooch_destroyer said:

I thought it was their choice? Also, didn't Persona 4 Golden do like 800K?

Yep, they say it's their choice to concentrate on singleplatform development. I just don't think that was a smart choice if they're not being paid by Sony for exclusivity rights. I think it's telling that the 2 bestselling Tales games outside of Japan are Symphonia and Vesperia, both of which released on platforms other than Playstation. And like you said, Hideo Baba believes that the core fanbase is on Playstation, so therefore he must not consider fans in the west to be a part of the series core fanbase. Vesperia and Symphonia sold as many copies or more outside of Japan as the series average in Japan.

I don't know, it just kind of seems shortsighted to me to ignore so many fans in the west when the Japanese console market is clearly shrinking. I think multiplat development is the best course they could take right now, especially since porting between Xbox One and PS4 is so easy and cheap. We've heard indie devs say they got games up and running on Xbox One for just a few thousand dollars and in just a few days, I'm sure that Namco Bandai could get future next-gen Tales games running on Xbox One without spending too much more time or money than those indie devs are, maybe a month or two and $50,000. And the potential reward could easily be 200-300k more copies sold. That's alot of sales that they're passing up in my opinion, a few million dollars worth of sales. I fear that if they stick with Playstation only development this generation while the Japanese console market keeps shrinking, they'll either end up dropping localizations to cut costs, or end up switching to mobile development eventually. Just like Sega has done with Yakuza, Phantasy Star, and Valkyria Chronicles. 

I don't think that'll happen.

Plus,I highly doubt they'd pay for exclusivity. What do they gain? Nothing.



I never got their line thinking: "Our fanbase is on this system".

Well try to expand and give people a taste of what you can do.

It's in their best interest to broaden their market, as Japanese console market is not facing the best times now.

I don't think they study Western markets.

A partnership with MS will make their game blow out of proportion in the market department. Sure they would get some threatning e-mails & Tweets/port begs, ect... however, the game exposition would higher than any of their previous titles.



shikamaru317 said:
gooch_destroyer said:

I don't think that'll happen.

We shall see. What worries me is the fact that the sales of the PS3 Tales games aren't that much higher than the sales of those 3 Sega series I listed were when Sega decided to either drop localiztions or drop console development. Heck, Valkyria Chronicles actually outsold the bestselling Tales game and it still ended up switching to mobile, and then later lost it's localizations as well. I fear that the shrinking Japanese console market could do the same to Tales. We'll just have to wait and see if the PS4's success in the west can compensate for the shrinking Japanese console market. 

There's importing.



gooch_destroyer said:
shikamaru317 said:

We shall see. What worries me is the fact that the sales of the PS3 Tales games aren't that much higher than the sales of those 3 Sega series I listed were when Sega decided to either drop localiztions or drop console development. Heck, Valkyria Chronicles actually outsold the bestselling Tales game and it still ended up switching to mobile, and then later lost it's localizations as well. I fear that the shrinking Japanese console market could do the same to Tales. We'll just have to wait and see if the PS4's success in the west can compensate for the shrinking Japanese console market. 

There's importing.

Do they come with English subs and text?



Goatseye said:

Do they come with English subs and text?


Some do.

shikamaru317 said:

If you can read and speak Japanese. Sadly I can do neither, despite trying to learn several times. Sometimes you'll get a fan translation, but that can take months or years, and sometimes fan translation projects completely stall, as we've seen with the Sakura Wars franchise.

I just guess at what the game try's to tell me.