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Yikes. Your reply to me about 12 year olds was directly responding to a guy talking about how easy it is to run Minecraft. Are you feeling ok?



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Lulz running away from my replies now and going backward.
Try and keep up, okay?



What also blows my mind is that, as little as year ago, I tried the "everyone has a PC" argument in a PS3 vs 360 debate. I was arguing why the Xbox didn't need a web browser. I was eaten alive! Now, not only does everyone have a PC, they have high powered gaming rigs!



attaboy said:
What also blows my mind is that, as little as year ago, I tried the "everyone has a PC" argument in a PS3 vs 360 debate. I was arguing why the Xbox didn't need a web browser. I was eaten alive! Now, not only does everyone have a PC, they have high powered gaming rigs!

Funniest part is if they are correct and everyone has great gaming rigs, why does anyone bother with consoles at all? Yet these things sell hundreds of millions every generation.



attaboy said:
What also blows my mind is that, as little as year ago, I tried the "everyone has a PC" argument in a PS3 vs 360 debate. I was arguing why the Xbox didn't need a web browser. I was eaten alive! Now, not only does everyone have a PC, they have high powered gaming rigs!

Don't need a high end rig to play console ports. Most OEM PC's now with built in IGP should be able to handle current gen games @ 720P, without much problems.



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dsgrue3 said:
Vetteman94 said:
After reading this thread I am really surprised people are so confused by this concept. I thought the OP and sales did a pretty good job explaining the situation. In a 1 vs 1 comparison, if one of the consoles doesnt have a specific game/feature, it is a +1 for the console that does. You cant disregard a console for being able to play a game because "that thing over there thats not in the comparison" has it as well.

Most people that buy PCs don't consider if it will play games as a factor in buying it unless that's what they want to do with it, because they probably don't care to play games on them. The ones that have a PC as a viable gaming option purchased it for that reason, but you can't use that as a blanket argument for everyone with a PC. People buy consoles because it is a simple and dedicated way to play games. And in most cases PC isn't an option for them.

Your argument (along with Sales2099 and the OP) falls on deaf ears because it is utterly fallacious to suggest that a majority of gamers don't have a capable PC.

Its just as fallacious to suggest the opposite as you are doing.  Because you are also saying they have the willingness to play games on PCs,  which again you can't say they all or even a majority have.    The ease of use of a console will sway gamers to using it over a PC for games.   Plus you have to also take into account what their friends play as well,  people arent going to game on a PC if their friends are all on 360 or PS3.   So PCs dont matter in arguments like this.   



Vetteman94 said:
dsgrue3 said:

Your argument (along with Sales2099 and the OP) falls on deaf ears because it is utterly fallacious to suggest that a majority of gamers don't have a capable PC.

Its just as fallacious to suggest the opposite as you are doing.  Because you are also saying they have the willingness to play games on PCs,  which again you can't say they all or even a majority have.    The ease of use of a console will sway gamers to using it over a PC for games.   Plus you have to also take into account what their friends play as well,  people arent going to game on a PC if their friends are all on 360 or PS3.   So PCs dont matter in arguments like this.   

I can, actually. Because it isn't if you have a console do you own a gaming PC,  It's if you own a gaming PC do you own a console because the PC gaming market is the size of the entire console market combined.

You're choosing to ignore facts. Time to face reality and simply admit you're arguing from a minority position.



J_Allard said:
attaboy said:
What also blows my mind is that, as little as year ago, I tried the "everyone has a PC" argument in a PS3 vs 360 debate. I was arguing why the Xbox didn't need a web browser. I was eaten alive! Now, not only does everyone have a PC, they have high powered gaming rigs!

Funniest part is if they are correct and everyone has great gaming rigs, why does anyone bother with consoles at all? Yet these things sell hundreds of millions every generation.

Dat exclusives and console-only multiplats. I can't exactly play games like [Insert all of Nintendo's games], [All PS exclusives/multi] [All Xbox exclusives/multi] on my PC (although I started emulating all of my Wii games using Dolphin, lately), which is why I still buy consoles. Without those games I indeed wouldn't buy consoles anymore.

Excluding the PC, exclusives are the games tipping the scale in my decision which console to buy.



sales2099 said:

Minecraft, among others like it = Multiplats, not on PS.

A Xbox gamer would however, treat it like an actual exclusive


Iif you buy only one system (whichever you like) and ignore all the others, you can treat every game for it as an exclusive. ;)



there is no one list to compare systems with.
depending on the situation different lists are important. For some people the list is why I should by a ps3 or xbox360 what will have more of what I want. In many cases the person with do all their gaming there. In many more cases they won't. In some cases listing all the games they play make sense in other cases listing only the games you can't already play make sense.

Listing all games a system can play when you can play 80% of the lirbrary or more elsewhere makes a list much longer than it needs to be.

Assuming everyone has a pc that they prefer playing games on (or any other platform games are also on and thus dismissing them) listing only the complete exclusives only helps those who have gaming pc or other systems.

recently there was the list from 2010 on. That list was trying to make the point of how much support a system had in it's later years or after motion controls. I think that list was a little to restrictive to make the point seem stronger. I would have included digital as well as at listing the console exclusives, labeling them such. Getting a game on pc/xbox is still getting the game and that is still supporting the system