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- KHlover

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I don't find it saddening, hearing "small number of key" is what I really want to hear.  Well actually, in a perfect world the system you own gets pretty much all games, like PS2 or SNES.  But for Wii U right now in its life what I want is for it to get a small number of really good AAA titles, and for those titles to do well.  The userbase is small.  If it is flooded with titles, then many will be missed or forgotten.  The system had about 30 titles at launch, but with only a couple million systems they can't all make money.

For me, my ideal scenario for Wii U right now is that it has strong 1st party titles and a solid group of high-end 3rd party multiplats from the key franchises.  I look at the second half of the year and I see:

Pikmin3

W101

ZeldaWWHD

DKC: TF

SM3DW

Wii Fit U

Wii Party U

...and from 3rd Parties we have:

Watch_Dogs

AC4

Batman:AO

Splinter Cell

Rayman Legends

Scribblenauts Unmasked

Disney Infinity

Sonic: The Lost World

Just Dance 2014

These games are not shovelware.  These are top titles from top franchises, and they span several genres, age groups, interests and styles.  Personally Zelda WWHD, SM3DW, Watch_Dogs and Batman:AO are day 1 purchases for me.  That's 4 titles... quite a few to buy.  I also have several maybes in W101, AC4 and Sonic.  I don't have any room in my time budget for more titles.  The only thing I'll be able to consider are high-end AAA titles or maybe some cheap download time wasters.  So what I want is exactly what was said.  A few key 3rd parties.  COD: Ghosts is a must-have for me, so if that's revealed as expected I'll have 5 games to buy and no room for anything else.  I'd like to see 2 or 3 other key franchises land on Wii U this fall to help move systems, but anything else will fail because of the 1st and 3rd party heavyweights already taking up market space.  If Nintendo can get the install base to 10 million this time next year, then there will be space for niche titles and lesser franchises.

He's been saying that since January...

I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree.

People don't complain because they have too many titles on PS360 because that's how it should be. We should have a lot of games because that way we can choose which games we want.

With the games we know that will be launched on WiiU and the games that we already have, there's only 2 games on each particular genre to choose from with a bit of luck. And some of those are launch titles that were ports from 1 year old games appeared on PS360, leaving those who had those consoles or a PC with only 1 game to play. That's not the best scenario for a console.

And it doesn't matter if you include the word "key" or not because that still means a small quantity of games and we don't know the meaning that the word key has for Nintendo. Are they "key" games because they are big sellers? Or because they are big IPs? Or because they are exclusives? Or because they come from devs/publishers that don't usually work with Nintendo? Or who knows why.

The word "Small" will allways mean few, not many or a lot. In this case it will always be bad. The word "key" is open to debate, so until we know which are those games (which, as ryuzaki57 said, are being touted since almost the launch of the console) we won't know how bad the situation is.

As I said, in a perfect world you would get all games.  But since it's not perfect for Wii U, what it does need is the key titles.

And 'key' is important.  Would you rather a system with Mario, Zelda, Watch_Dogs, AC, COD, Batman, GTA and Final Fantasy, or a system with Hitman, Kingdoms of Amalur, Lego Batman , RE: Racoon City, Max Pain, NFS, Epic Mickey, LA Noire, Mortal Kombat, Darksiders, Saints Row, Dead Island, Rage, Fuze, Marvel vs. Capcom and Dead Space?

More is better, but most people don't by the games in the second group.  The first group are all the gaming most people need.  When you have a system that you need to sell and only has a small install base, those key titles are very important.

Certainly sounds interesting...I would assume the "key" in the description means that these aren't shovelware titles.

Biggest question at the moment...how many is a "small number"?

Since we are talking about third party games, from the first list of games I'd get (or already have) 4: Assassins Creed, WatchDogs, Batman and GTA. From the second list I'd get (or already have) 4: Hitman, Darksiders, RAGE and Saints Row.

But maybe I'm the exception to the rule.

But since only 5 of those 22 games are or will be on WiiU, the situation is what it is. You said wait until we know which are those key titles, fine, but since the games to be revealed are a small number the situation won't get much better, only not so bad.

And that's only if any of those games unnannounced key games are part of your first list. If they are from the second... Time will tell, but as I said, I expect those third party games to come from Japanese developers, not western ones.