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Soleron on 04 July 2013
Hynad said:
Soleron said:
Hynad said:
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But tool kits are made available to other parties by Sony over time when they're available... 

My point is that people shouldn't think that DirectX 11.2 being exclusive to Windows 8 and XBO is a big deal. 

There's a difference between a toolkit and a graphics API. The API Sony/AMD provides will be based on OpenGL.


Yes, but like you said, the API is standardized. But features can be created on top of it when you're able to code to the metal. That's where the ever evolving toolkits come into play, with their set of features updated throughout the course of the console gen.

Not really relevant to this thread.



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dahuman on 04 July 2013
CGI-Quality said:
archer9234 said:
CGI-Quality said:
archer9234 said:

No one's gonna care. This is what caused 10 and 11 to fizzle out. There's just no real reason for people to go OMG I gotta buy Windows 8 over this.

Eh, 10 fizzled out. DirectX 11 is still thriving on PC.


How many games really use 11 the most. Especially when DX9 is still supported.

DX9 is still the standard, yes, but 11 hasn't "fizzled out" as you claimed. Tomb Raider, Crysis 3, and Metro: Last Light are all DX11 games. In fact, Crysis 3 only supports that.

Linked it before, linking it again, for archer9234's pleasure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support



Hynad on 04 July 2013
Soleron said:
Hynad said:
Soleron said:
Hynad said:
...

But tool kits are made available to other parties by Sony over time when they're available... 

My point is that people shouldn't think that DirectX 11.2 being exclusive to Windows 8 and XBO is a big deal. 

There's a difference between a toolkit and a graphics API. The API Sony/AMD provides will be based on OpenGL.


Yes, but like you said, the API is standardized. But features can be created on top of it when you're able to code to the metal. That's where the ever evolving toolkits come into play, with their set of features updated throughout the course of the console gen.

Not really relevant to this thread.

It is, when you consider that most features DX 11.2 will bring  (and then some)  will be possible to be implemented most everywhere else.



archer9234 on 04 July 2013

That's great. But in the end 9 is still used in major games. That's what I was getting at. Crysis 3 is really the only game that has the balls to not allow 9 or 10. How old is 9? You've done something wrong to not have 11 as a standard.



dahuman on 04 July 2013
Hynad said:
Soleron said:
Hynad said:


Yes, but like you said, the API is standardized. But features can be created on top of it when you're able to code to the metal. That's where the ever evolving toolkits come into play, with their set of features updated throughout the course of the console gen.

Not really relevant to this thread.

It is, when you consider that most features DX 11.2 will bring  (and then some)  will be possible to be implemented most everywhere else.

You are thinking about software updates and not hardware capabilities, hardware optimization is required to run certain features at a faster speed, so while you can implement new features to the API and make it run on a certain hardware, it doesn't mean that those feature sets will be running at good speeds. It's not so simple as "I'm gonna rewrite this code to this hardware that's already touching the home base and get awesome performance on this other feature that this hardware wasn't optimized for to start with!" That'd be some voodoo magic shit.



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Adinnieken on 04 July 2013

Sorry, but developers will easily take advantage of the feature available in 11.2. DirectX 11 is supported on Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1. So the base functionality in DirectX 11 is available to every modern Windows platform. Every installation of Windows 8 will become a Windows 8.1 installation, so I don't see the adoption of Windows 8.1 and DirectX 11.2 being a hurdle. So, at worse, in the near future, you'll be looking at developers that offer both DirectX 11 and DirectX 11.2 support. Long-term if the features of DirectX 11.2 are compelling enough then you'll see developers moving development over to it simply because more and more installations of Windows 8.1 will happen as well as more and more installations of Xbox Ones.



Ssenkahdavic on 04 July 2013

Still not enough reason to get the gamer in me to upgrade to Windows 8.1.

Considering that AMD believes PC graphical technology is on the verge of a slump (and MS hasnt done anything to alleviate his concerns, besides redacting a really stupid comment about DirectX not evolving and not needing the MPVs anymore)

 



 

  

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dahuman on 04 July 2013
archer9234 said:
That's great. But in the end 9 is still used in major games. That's what I was getting at. Crysis 3 is really the only game that has the balls to not allow 9 or 10. How old is 9? You've done something wrong to not have 11 as a standard.


It's called MS dicking around not putting newer DX in older Windows and 7th gen consoles stayed for too long.



dahuman on 04 July 2013
Adinnieken said:
Sorry, but developers will easily take advantage of the feature available in 11.2. DirectX 11 is supported on Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1. So the base functionality in DirectX 11 is available to every modern Windows platform. Every installation of Windows 8 will become a Windows 8.1 installation, so I don't see the adoption of Windows 8.1 and DirectX 11.2 being a hurdle. So, at worse, in the near future, you'll be looking at developers that offer both DirectX 11 and DirectX 11.2 support. Long-term if the features of DirectX 11.2 are compelling enough then you'll see developers moving development over to it simply because more and more installations of Windows 8.1 will happen as well as more and more installations of Xbox Ones.


I want Windows 8.2 or 9 already after installing 8.1 preview on my laptop lol..... It's still not that good.



papamudd on 04 July 2013

I read this article yesterday... it seemed the people upset about this weren't Sony Fans but win 7 users



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date