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LemonSlice on 02 July 2013

I believe him.

(then again, I believe everything this man says)



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Sal.Paradise on 02 July 2013

Shu and his master plan



the2real4mafol on 02 July 2013

It's good to know but it doesn't matter anymore. We can get used games on any next gen format now without any restrictions



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papamudd on 02 July 2013

Well its definitely easy to say such a thing now... The fact that they didn't specify before does make it suspicious, but then again there wasn't anything to specify as they weren't making any changes. Also Jack Tretton said that that he was against the idea over a year ago to the press so I wasn't surprised.



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Dgc1808 on 02 July 2013
papamudd said:
Well its definitely easy to say such a thing now... The fact that they didn't specify before does make it suspicious, but then again there wasn't anything to specify as they weren't making any changes. Also Jack Tretton said that that he was against the idea over a year ago to the press so I wasn't surprised.


SONY in the Begining: "Ristrictions on used games will be up to the publisher."
PS Fans: "So exactly as it is on PS3 now? Cool."
Other Console fans: "No. It means they can implement the same level of DRM as Xbone. SONY's just setting up a scapegoat for themselves."

SONY later on: "Ristrictions on used games will be up to the publisher."
PS Fans: "It really seems like it's just the same system as the PS3 in which publishers can use a method like online passes."
Other Console fans: "No. Expect DRM similar to what MS is doing system wide but by every single publisher. Microsoft is forcing it and SONY is allowing it."

SONY at E3: "It's exactly the same as it is on PS3."
PS Fans: "Fuck yea."
Other console fans: "... "

EDITED



4 ≈ One

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theprof00 on 03 July 2013
Dgc1808 said:
papamudd said:
Well its definitely easy to say such a thing now... The fact that they didn't specify before does make it suspicious, but then again there wasn't anything to specify as they weren't making any changes. Also Jack Tretton said that that he was against the idea over a year ago to the press so I wasn't surprised.


SONY in the Begining: "Ristrictions on used games will be up to the publisher."
PS Fans: "So exactly as it is on PS3 now? Cool."
Other Console fans: "No. It means they can implement the same level of DRM as Xbone. SONY's just setting up a scapegoat for themselves."

SONY later on: "Ristrictions on used games will be up to the publisher."
PS Fans: "It really seems like it's just the same system as the PS3 in which publishers can use a method like online passes."
Other Console fans: "No. Expect DRM similar to what MS is doing system wide but by every single publisher. Microsoft is forcing it and SONY is allowing it."

SONY at E3: "It's exactly the same as it is on PS3."
PS Fans: "Fuck yea."
Other console fans: "... "

EDITED

Actually, the last part...other console fans still said it was the same as xbone, or questioned whether DRM was actually that bad (calling others babies), or said DRM is the future, or said "sony just waited til the last minute to say something. Xbox backlash changed their minds".

I think there was even a thread asserting that Sony had TWO different e3 presentations, one was if xb1 confirmed drm and one if they didn't. How hilarious is that?



ethomaz on 03 July 2013

Shu's Master Plan.



ethomaz on 03 July 2013
theprof00 said:

Actually, the last part...other console fans still said it was the same as xbone, or questioned whether DRM was actually that bad (calling others babies), or said DRM is the future, or said "sony just waited til the last minute to say something. Xbox backlash changed their minds".

I think there was even a thread asserting that Sony had TWO different e3 presentations, one was if xb1 confirmed drm and one if they didn't. How hilarious is that?

I think MS had two plans... one for Sony with DRM and other for Sony without DRM lol lol lol



mutantclown on 03 July 2013
ethomaz said:
theprof00 said:

Actually, the last part...other console fans still said it was the same as xbone, or questioned whether DRM was actually that bad (calling others babies), or said DRM is the future, or said "sony just waited til the last minute to say something. Xbox backlash changed their minds".

I think there was even a thread asserting that Sony had TWO different e3 presentations, one was if xb1 confirmed drm and one if they didn't. How hilarious is that?

I think MS had two plans... one for Sony with DRM and other for Sony without DRM lol lol lol

And I think MS never had a plan, they just make stuff as they go. Console, strategy, games and everything.



Alby_da_Wolf on 03 July 2013

IMVHO, it was quite predictable that MS would have tried something like what it actually tried, so it was for Sony a safe bet. What was a lot less predictable was MS giving up so easily, but even more so, Sony made a good choice, very competitive in the best scenario (that almost happened, until MS gave up), matching the competition in the worse.



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