I don't know, The Wii U feels like a huge step backwards from the Wii.

Hell, Wii U probably should have been released in 2006. And Wii in 2012.

what you saying? GameCube still ahead of PS4, nonsense!

and one thing? Chinese food is NOT better than Japanese food, please die

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-Mr Khan

I was just joking but the pad is one of the best moves Nintendo has made. There's three reasons why it's not selling.

1) The heavy hitters haven't been released and the lack of games.

2) The poor advertising to the casuals.

3) the anti Nintendo bias from haters.

Do you really beleave that they should have stayed with the Wii? The hater would really be going to town. But you know as well as I that the real reason for all the hate on the pad is because Nintendo created it. Had Sony did those same hates would be praising it like there is no tommoro.

All that next-generation talk makes little sense. First, you need to know one thing to start these kinds of discussions: what defines a new generation? Obviously, it's when a new videogame releases after a long time without "new" videogames, and when that new videogame improves the general graphical power when compared to old consoles. It has been like this since the NES was considered to be in a new generation, because, well, it was more powerful than a Atari 2600 and had been released a lot of time after 2600's release, and it actually never changed, no matter how anyone tries to spin that. Wii U was next-generation when it wasn't released yet simply because it is more powerful than the last gen consoles(PS3/360/Wii) and has been released a lot of time after the release of those consoles. It's current gen now, because it has already released and started a new generation based on new graphics and release dates. The power difference itself doesn't matter, what matters is that it exists, even if it is small or big, and that difference in power needs to exist with a difference in release dates to define a new generation.

The pad is just stupid. Explain to me the uses of it in game such that people who weren't going to buy the console will buy it.

It increased the console price by $100! Are you really saying people would have paid $100 for a Pad if it was standalone? If not, it's not worth it.

The "heavy hitters" will make it sell like a Gamecube. Even with Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash, Kart, I think you'd consider 20m a huge disappointment.

The lack of games is the biggest factor.. but there are actually a lot of games on the system. Just not ones people want to buy. And a large part of that is the Pad being shoehorned everywhere.

Bias from haters doesn't affect console sales at all, stop thinking like that.

The real reason for the hate on the pad is because it's a terrible idea! If Sony made it, they really wouldn't make it compulsory, and then it would die as many hardware accessories have.

100% Agree. As a Wii owner I see Wii U as a huge 'wtf'?

My question is, if I don't like the Wii U Gamepad and don't see it as necessary, does that basically mean Wii U isn't for me? If so, the Gamepad is no different than M$ with Kinect.

100% Agree. As a Gamecube owner I see the Wii as a huge 'wtf'?

My question is, if I don't like the Wii remote and don't see it as necessary, does that basically mean Wii isn't for me? If so, the Wii remote is no different than M$ with Kinect.

On a more serious note: Yes, the Wii remote is less expensive but the differences ends there for me. If I could navigate through the Wii menus using a Gamecube controller or Classic controller I would have been perfectly fine without even owning a Wii remote. Not to mention that Twilight princess, Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Kart Wii was perfectly playable with a GC controller one way or another. SM Galaxy would have been just as great, too. If not better using the C-stick to control the camera.

So yeah, requirements that appears unnecessary to some is nothing new.

do you know what generation means? its chronology not power, 

LoL. Cute. 

Then perhaps I was right in that Wii U has more in common with Gamecube than it does Wii...The gamecUbe