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What you seem to miss, and most people do, is that this creation was never intended to be permanent. Scientists know that over 99.9 percent of species have already gone extinct, and extinctions have been a way of life. The history of life is the history of mass extinctions followed by rapid repopulations. 

I have studied theology and listened to many stupid teachers. I have discovered that tThe teachers seem to be stupider than most. They  can not answier important difficult questions. But fortunately, for every difficult question I have come across Jesus always has the answer. For this question, which a lot of people don't understand, and need to good answer Jesus says: 'Ashes to ashes.' In other workds death is a part of physical life. There is no escape. That is the way the universe was created. So death of species is not a reflection on the state of creation at all. Don't forget the mass repopulations. But also, as Jesus was pointing out, do not focus solely on your physical life because there is an existance after we die. And Jesus would love to spend the rest of eternity in heaven with us.



When you make a mistake, you erase that mistake.

lets just hope god didnt use a sharpie.





spurgeonryan said:
Egann said:

Please note that it is the inevitable fate of all species on Earth to melt into puddles of lava when the sun becomes a red giant. Humans are also the only species on Earth with the potential to change that and preserve Earth's ecosystems, and probably the only one with that potential Earth has ever evolved.

(No, seriously. The list of required traits for intelligence is LONG. Dawkins is quoted as saying it is reasonably unlikely Earth will evolve another intelligent species if we go extinct.) 


To personify the Earth, think of humans as an investment to save Earth's biomes from inevitable death. I'd say that investment is worth some serious risk. Our planet has certainly had mass extinctions for lesser causes.

Just happened to come back to this. Why would Earth not evolve another intelligent species if we all became extinct?

 

Another question. Could Earth evolve to against humans as it did in After Earth? Or even how it was millions of years ago when Dinosaurs roamed the earth ( or in Christianity time, 10,000 years or less ago).

I didn't say Earth couldn't evolve another species, but that it was reasonably unlikely. 

Most people critically underestimate how demanding intelligence is as an attribute. Here's a quick rundown of a few of the requirements:

  • Warm blooded metabolism: Your brain burns 20-25% of your net metabolic energy. If you weren't warm blooded, this would be like doubling your metabolic needs. Even most warm-blooded animals don't eat a diet which can sustain a brain like ours. 
  • Intelligent creatures have to be social and communicative. The vast majority of human experiences are experienced vicariously with language. In this sense, a brain is only as good as the community behind it: the bigger and more inquisitive the community, the better the brains it produces. A potentially intelligent brain in isolation is useless because it can't learn to do anything.
  • Brains take years to grow. Most of the livestock animals we keep are larger than we are, but they mature faster because they don't have to feed a brain with new ideas.
So let's recap. In traditional darwinian evolution, what conditions make intelligence likely to arise? A large community of metabolically superior animals in a time of plenty, safety, and relative stability. Nothing about this jives with selective pressures. Most species would have a boom-bust cycle and that would be it. No intelligence.
As to your second question, I don't understand what you're asking.


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Eventually the Sun will become a red giant and it will bring more destruction than men, so we could say that God should be disappointed that men, even trying so hard, don't manage to bring all the destruction they'd like.



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spurgeonryan said:

They made Humans.

Sure, we evolve with the best of them, but we have evolved too much. We are destroying everything around us. What do you think the Big bang would think now, if it knew that we were destroying all of it's creations? We have almost driven Bees to extinction and we do not even eat the little suckas! Dodo birds are gone, Saddam Hussein is dead, Fillet permabanned himself, we over hunted dinosaus and they are all now gone besides the one in Loch Ness and Big foot.

We were created to over evolve, and now risk the planet. Next to go? China and the Redwoods of California when Pangea rises from the ocean because of global warming.

 

Do you know that it has rained for nearly 60 days straight in Illinois, US? Not just little bitty sprinkles either; Giant Fucling Rain showers! I am sick of it! Paid for a Summer pass at the pool for the whole family and have had to leave the place twice due to rain and thunder.

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Humans were created with no instinct at all! A wolf knows when there is danger around. But when humans drill the earth to it's core, pullute the water, and destroy our atmosphere, we just continue on as long as we get money. No matter that people in Asian societies have to wear masks to breath, or that Siberia is possibly melting ( Greenland is).

So those where these idiots two fatal mistakes.

 

Agree?

I presume they are fired from their job and they left our planet and haven't done no work to our planet anymore
And when our Sun finally eats up the planet, the proof is completely gone and they can finally start over and finally give dolphins arms and legs, so they will rule the new earth.



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its threads like this that make this movie truth and a scary vision of the future.

 



 

The Earth doesn't think.

Everything that is today is the result of pure coincidence. Everything that will happen in the future is the result of past events. Basically what binary solo said. Humans are actually pretty arrogant to think we have any sort of impact on the 'life' of the Earth. Like any other species that ever existed, we will only be here for a relatively short time before we go extinct like the 99.9% of lifeforms before us; it doesn't matter in the slightest if we make bees go extinct. That would also be part of evolution anyway. Life that adapts will survive and life that doesn't dies, like what has happened for billions of years. The climate on Earth also has been way hotter in the past than it is now and it has been way colder too. The only thing we can do is make life shittier for ourselves.

Once we're gone, it won't take long before any trace of us is gone too.