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Alby_da_Wolf on 30 June 2013

Sony must have managed to infiltrate its old PR guys into MS...

He managed to tell some truths, like that games count the most, but in such a clumsy and defensive way to ruin everything.
Terrible when after saying specs don't count he adds that Sony used off-the-shelf parts while MS customised and fine tuned them: so all that customization and fine tuning resulted in higher costs and lower performances? Good job!



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Necromunda on 30 June 2013
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?

Killzone

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Infamous

The Last Of Us

and lets not forget the ALMIGHTY Gran Turismo!

So what were you saying again?



S.T.A.G.E. on 30 June 2013
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?


No sustainable IP's? Count the sequels genius.



Proxy-Pie on 30 June 2013
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?

Killzone

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Infamous

The Last Of Us

and lets not forget the ALMIGHTY Gran Turismo!

So what were you saying again?


i had a great big post ready to be posted, but unfortunately, the power went out and the post was gone D:

anyways, if you compare these IPs to Nintendo's, they still appear relatively new, besides Gran Turismo, and I don't even know why the fuck you included TLOU as a sustainable IP when it just released :P



Necromunda on 30 June 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?

Killzone

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Infamous

The Last Of Us

and lets not forget the ALMIGHTY Gran Turismo!

So what were you saying again?


i had a great big post ready to be posted, but unfortunately, the power went out and the post was gone D:

anyways, if you compare these IPs to Nintendo's, they still appear relatively new, besides Gran Turismo, and I don't even know why the fuck you included TLOU as a sustainable IP when it just released :P

Don't bring up Nintendo, considering they are notorious for re-hasing their IP's and releasing the same stuff over and over with minor changes, I may get flaked for this comment, but I could care less, they have massively stifled themselves in terms of innovation as far as I'm concerned.

The Last Of Us also has steller upfront sales for a new IP and great critical reception, it's not going anywhere.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 June 2013
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Four great games this generation? Wow dude....so be it if thats your opinion.

"Great" is a very, very high rank for some.

There are about 12 games across all platforms for the 7th gen that I'd call "great."


I think there were more than twelve great new franchises that would come out across the board. There were more great games in all than just IP's.



Proxy-Pie on 30 June 2013
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?

Killzone

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Infamous

The Last Of Us

and lets not forget the ALMIGHTY Gran Turismo!

So what were you saying again?


i had a great big post ready to be posted, but unfortunately, the power went out and the post was gone D:

anyways, if you compare these IPs to Nintendo's, they still appear relatively new, besides Gran Turismo, and I don't even know why the fuck you included TLOU as a sustainable IP when it just released :P

Don't bring up Nintendo, considering they are notorious for re-hasing their IP's and releasing the same stuff over and over with minor changes, I may get flaked for this comment, but I could care less, they have massively stifled themselves in terms of innovation as far as I'm concerned.

The Last Of Us also has steller upfront sales for a new IP and great critical reception, it's not going anywhere.

sure, since any IP that beats the Sony IPs is rehashed -.- , let's just ignore how Mario Kart is different from Mario galaxy which is different from Mario 64 which is different from sunshine which is different from new super luigi U which is different from Mario Party which is different from Mario Golf, let's ignore that the highest rated game of the generation was Super Mario Galaxy, let's ignore that the highest rated game of all time is The Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time, let's ignore that Sony(and everbody else) copied Nintendo's Controllers and innovations and just say that Nintendo doesn't innovate, let's ignore that I said sustainable IPs, as in, IPs that lasted for a while, and you listed a game that just released.

yeah, have fun with that mindset :facepalm:



Necromunda on 30 June 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
Necromunda said:
MohammadBadir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?

Killzone

Uncharted

Little Big Planet

Infamous

The Last Of Us

and lets not forget the ALMIGHTY Gran Turismo!

So what were you saying again?


i had a great big post ready to be posted, but unfortunately, the power went out and the post was gone D:

anyways, if you compare these IPs to Nintendo's, they still appear relatively new, besides Gran Turismo, and I don't even know why the fuck you included TLOU as a sustainable IP when it just released :P

Don't bring up Nintendo, considering they are notorious for re-hasing their IP's and releasing the same stuff over and over with minor changes, I may get flaked for this comment, but I could care less, they have massively stifled themselves in terms of innovation as far as I'm concerned.

The Last Of Us also has steller upfront sales for a new IP and great critical reception, it's not going anywhere.

sure, since any IP that beats the Sony IPs is rehashed -.- , let's just ignore how Mario Kart is different from Mario galaxy which is different from Mario 64 which is different from sunshine which is different from new super luigi U which is different from Mario Party which is different from Mario Golf, let's ignore that the highest rated game of the generation was Super Mario Galaxy, let's ignore that the highest rated game of all time is The Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time, let's ignore that Sony(and everbody else) copied Nintendo's Controllers and innovations and just say that Nintendo doesn't innovate, let's ignore that I said sustainable IPs, as in, IPs that lasted for a while, and you listed a game that just released.

yeah, have fun with that mindset :facepalm:

It's late, and after that post I'm not going to even waste my time arguing with you. There are so many substantial flaws in your argument it's remarkable.

Just as a  final note before I go to bed however, I could care less if a Sony game sells less than a Nintendo game, as sales don't denote quality and innovation.

Goodnight sir. 



KingdomHeartsFan on 30 June 2013

If the Xbone was more powerful then he would be saying the opposite, this just comes across as damage control. 



Grandia on 30 June 2013

He is absolutely right, the graphics of xbone and PS4 games will be anyways identical in 90% of the games. 90% of the games are multi platform games and from the other 10% exclusive games are only a few ones really top notch in addition the graphics leap from last geneartion to this gen. is anyways almost non-existent.
In the end this guy is absolutely right, no one cares about anyway invisibleb graphics differences, it depends way more on which console gets the better games and delivers the better total package so microsoft deliver awesome exclusive games and lower the xbox one price soon to ps4 level and the people will undoubtedly buy the console.