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Conina said:
Captain_Yuri said:
New Titan X just got announced... Wtffff. Why sooo soon???

I surmise that Pascal will be a short generation and that Volta won't take almost 2 years to arrive. There won't be a 1080 Ti (with only 50% more RAM, the new Titan X is essentially a 1080 Ti with a "Titan"-price tag). Pascal feels more like a shrinked Maxwell than a new architecture.

So I expect the first Volta GPUs with HBM2, better async compute and full DX12-compatibility next summer.

It's definitelly not something groundbreaking, but it is new architecture. Anandtech finally reviewed 1080 and 1070, it was worth the wait, there's a lot to be learned there.



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JEMC said:

That's what Nvidia says

Everybody was expecting HBM2.0 to be used on the new Titan, and some even hoped that ot would come on the 1080Ti too.

So therefore it's the Titan ... 

Expectations =/= Outcome, that is why I avoid tech gossip sites like WCCFTech ... 

Performance is what defines product lines, not expectations ... 



I think if the Titan performs 30% better than the 1080 in games it's a good deal. Though it might need a bit of overclock to achieve that. The only thing I'm disappointed at is the price. Probably won't get two of them now. But one should be plenty for 1440p.



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So an opportunity arose to me just now. I can buy a used PC with a Fractal Design R5 case, a 970, i5 3570k, W10, 223 GB SSD and a 1TB HDD for 4000 NOK now. For reference, a 1060 (non founders edition) at new MSRP is 2700 NOK. What I was thinking was, buy this computer now, and use this until the next generation of GPUs, and upgrade Mobo, CPU, RAM and GPU when that happens. Does that sound like a good idea?



A whole PC with performance way above PS4 in most games for 4000 NOK / 425 € seems a good deal to me.



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fatslob-:O said:
JEMC said:

That's what Nvidia says

Everybody was expecting HBM2.0 to be used on the new Titan, and some even hoped that ot would come on the 1080Ti too.

So therefore it's the Titan ... 

Expectations =/= Outcome, that is why I avoid tech gossip sites like WCCFTech ... 

Performance is what defines product lines, not expectations ... 

It's a Titan card because of its name, but not by its specs.

And people expected the new Titan to feature HBM because all Titan cards so far have come straight from Nvidia's highest chip (GK110, GM200) and Nvidia's current highest chip is the GP100 which features HBM 2.0.

What I do agree, tho, is that performance will be what settles this discussion and if the card deserves its price.

 

@Teeqoz: If you trust the vendor, I'd say go for it. It's a very good PC for a very good price. Just for curiosity, how much RAM deos it have?



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JEMC said:
fatslob-:O said:

So therefore it's the Titan ... 

Expectations =/= Outcome, that is why I avoid tech gossip sites like WCCFTech ... 

Performance is what defines product lines, not expectations ... 

It's a Titan card because of its name, but not by its specs.

And people expected the new Titan to feature HBM because all Titan cards so far have come straight from Nvidia's highest chip (GK110, GM200) and Nvidia's current highest chip is the GP100 which features HBM 2.0.

What I do agree, tho, is that performance will be what settles this discussion and if the card deserves its price.

Depends who you're talking to. There are plenty people who would snuff the price even if it was 50% faster.



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

It's a Titan card because of its name, but not by its specs.

And people expected the new Titan to feature HBM because all Titan cards so far have come straight from Nvidia's highest chip (GK110, GM200) and Nvidia's current highest chip is the GP100 which features HBM 2.0.

What I do agree, tho, is that performance will be what settles this discussion and if the card deserves its price.

Depends who you're talking to. There are plenty people who would snuff the price even if it was 50% faster.

But that's the point, this Titan costs twice as much as a 1080 so it has to offer quite a lot in terms of performance to be worth* the price.

*worth is a relative, and very subjective, term. For some people spending $600 every year or 18 months in a new GPU is reasonable and perfectly ok, to me that's... madness.



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JEMC said:
vivster said:

Depends who you're talking to. There are plenty people who would snuff the price even if it was 50% faster.

But that's the point, this Titan costs twice as much as a 1080 so it has to offer quite a lot in terms of performance to be worth* the price.

*worth is a relative, and very subjective, term. For some people spending $600 every year or 18 months in a new GPU is reasonable and perfectly ok, to me that's... madness.

I would never spend 600 bucks on a new GPU because I know it would be shit. To get a good one you need to spend at least 700. That said, I did survive quite a long time with my 680 until I got the 980ti. I'm not 100% sold on the Titan yet but it's not like I got a choice. I want to build a new PC early next year and I sure as hell won't keep my 980ti or take a shitty 1080.



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

But that's the point, this Titan costs twice as much as a 1080 so it has to offer quite a lot in terms of performance to be worth* the price.

*worth is a relative, and very subjective, term. For some people spending $600 every year or 18 months in a new GPU is reasonable and perfectly ok, to me that's... madness.

I would never spend 600 bucks on a new GPU because I know it would be shit. To get a good one you need to spend at least 700. That said, I did survive quite a long time with my 680 until I got the 980ti. I'm not 100% sold on the Titan yet but it's not like I got a choice. I want to build a new PC early next year and I sure as hell won't keep my 980ti or take a shitty 1080.

By next year the prices could be lower than now. And we don't know if there will be a $1,000 1080Ti.

On a side note: "I would never spend 600 bucks on a new GPU because I know it would be shit" Have we really got to that point?



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