Yeah, my fear is the issue resurfaces along with another update, or that it turns into an issue over time. Keeping my eyes glued to this shit for sure!

We need our lord and savior Tech Jesus to stirr the pot a bit here.

wait a sec, it's scummy if AMD is doing this, but melting GPU's on nvidia's side is liveable?.

Like I'm really confused here, who's worse in this ring of scummy shit, AMD or Nvidia?.

In other news, so I was participating in the latest bench-a-thon in wccftech and there's a lot of interesting results that I wanted to share. My username is Squiddy there and I wouldn't actually go to the comment section and read any of my posts cause most of the time, I am a trolly arsehole like everyone else there where as here, I am a lot more civilized. Least that's what I like to think lol. But anyway, the point is that the benchmark we ran truly shows the power of 7800X3D. This is a 1080p bench so if you have a fast enough GPU like the 4090, it is largely CPU bound where as if you something slower like a 7900XTX, overclocking both the GPU and CPU helps with the score.

Because the benchmark scales surprisingly well, it really shows the power of 7800X3D. Paired with a messily 6200mhz DDR5 ram with buildzoids custom ram timings and SMT off + -15 Curve + PBO, it can take on 13900K paired with the much more expensive Apex motherboards and 7600mhz RAM with HT off + ecores off + rebar off they are fully watercooled while mine is a standard 360 AIO. Only when paired with 8000mhz RAM could Intel defeat the 7800X3D in this benchmark which is insane. Now because of Ryzens recent nonsense, I don't want to push any higher cause that would require more voltage but you get the point. It's truly an amazing chip!

There's also some other interesting combinations that show that depending on your setup and how you configure it, you might perform higher than expected or lower than expected.

They are both scummy is the point. People shat on Nvidia like no tomorrow including myself when they were melting until GN investigated the situation and found out the cause. We are doing the same with AMD. Shit like this is unacceptable regardless of company.

It's interesting how they compare the performance of the machines against the Switch and not the Steam Deck, which is its direct competitor.

Also, as Pemalite uses to say every chance he gets, it's also telling how the Z1 extreme is so much powerful than even the Z1 in the TFlops slide, but if you check the AMD announcement of the two chips and compare the performance of both, the difference is much, much smaller.

It wouldn't surprise me if the regula Z1 manages higher clocks than the Z1 extreme, and that makes up for a lot of the disparity in specs.

So, just like Intel's 13th gen is a mix of Raptor Lake and Alder Lake architectures, the 14th one will be a mix of Meteor and Allow Lake ones. Let the confusion continue.

Have rumors finally confirmed if the 14th Gen will also work on existing s1700 boards, if they'll be s1851 only or are they still expecting to work on both?

Yeah that doesn't make any good to anyone, neither board makers, AMD nor specially consumers.

But it makes you wonder, if both AMD and its borad partners knew about this, why the F did they allow the higher voltages to begin with? It doesn't make any sense other than to be able to claim better performance than the competition in reviews and in posts around the web.

Both things are bad, no doubts about it. But one was an "accident" from a connector being so stiff that it couldn't be properly attached and the other one is, apparently, a known issue that wasn't considered important enough to delay the launch of the processors and boards. 

Honestly it feels like I am going to be in for a performance degradation after this but we will see. This entire thing has felt odd from the start. If it was just Asus, fair enough, they got something wrong. But every motherboard vendor? Like wtf and now this NDA nonsense? As a person that likes to buy hardware and loves pc gaming and benchmarking as a hobby, this is the type of nonsense that turns me off. The 4090 debacle was stressful enough but at least my computer can work without a 4090 for a few weeks if that died. If my cpu dies and I am without a computer for 1-2 weeks waiting for an RMA. Like that is legit costing me real money because I work from home after covid happened.

I am really regretting selling my 5950X so quickly lmao.

Well, all motherboard makers have "one*button OC" features on their boards, and most, if not all, of them rely on higher voltages to get higher clocks. That's why limiting voltage increases was something they probably didn't want to do, because it would affect the performance of their products and how the consumers would see them.

And yeah, maybe you got rid of your old hardware a bit too fast, but there's nothing you can do about it now.

With that said, and knowing that some of the problems come from EXPO and RAM, maybe you'll want to dial down your kit to "only" 6000MHz to go easy on the voltage.

No way, the melting connectors were bullshit design from nVidia, same with their whining about surges and spikes being up to PSU manufacturers to fix. And their pricing in the last two gens has been off the rails. Equally so now with AMD; this whole MOBO and 7000-series CPU issue is bullshit from AMD, doubly so if they knew about the issue. To me, they're both asshole companies, I purchase what gives me the most oomph, and right now that's a Ryzen CPU and an nVidia GPU combo.

There are pains to being an early adopter of basically any product. One has got to consider that whenever they're talking about 16-pin connectors or overclockable 3D cache CPUs.

It's not like we're talking about middle-range hardware that is suddenly malfunctioning.