Chazore said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Exactly why I bought a 4090. The market is fucked either way and it will either get better or it will get much worse. I am 30 years old with a good paying job, I want to play games with the best experience that PC has to offer and I don't want to keep waiting for the Pascal moment that might never happen again. Even if Nvidia some how goes back to form with RTX 5000 series, is something else gonna cuck the market? Another Crypto boom as btc keeps trending upwards? Some weird Ai nonsense? Who knows.
The only thing that anyone knows for sure is that a 4090 a very fast GPU with all the premium features that will last for a very long time if needed. It's why I have been saying, do not buy any GPUs from this generation other than 4090 if you are going to upgrade. Because 4080, 7900XTX, 7900XT, 4070 Ti etc are just horribly priced for their performance. And if you are on a budget and need to upgrade now, buy RDNA 2. 6800XT at $500 is insane value. 6700XT for $350 is good value. 4070 in the current gpu climate ain't too bad either, especially if you can get it discounted below msrp.
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I just see it getting worse tbh.
nvidia is only ever going to lower their prices due to not many buying in the middle to low end market, as they've since proven they don't care about the high end folks (since they buy regardless of price).
Because AMD is focused on 2 markets as well as servers, I don't see them putting more eggs into their GPU side, simply because that requires more money, time and effort, all of that which isn't going to really pay off in their short term, due to how little gains they seem to get and how brand awareness seems to favour Nvidia most of the time.
There is one way we could course correct this, and it has to be via us, the consumer, and that's to simply stop buying into Nvidia as a collective and either buy into AMD or Intel, but because no one truly works that way in society (even fans don't work as a collective entirely, even for the long-term goals they aspire for), Nvidia will just keep it's market share, and nothing will change.
Crypto could absolutely come back, but Ai and Crypto bros have always been a background problematic type, and those can only be done away with if people cared enough to show them the door, consumers and corpos alike (which again, won't happen, because no one cares to change the status quo, not unless things get absolutely dire as hell, that no one can stand it).
The thing is, while you've got the good job and the like, I'm some yrs older than you and not really in the best position (health issues have set me back from maintaining a job, and I'm still trying to get docs to work with me to get me back on my feet for nearly 3 yrs now), but I've also had to wait 3 gens for what I perceive as good value/perf, and despite the 4090 having all those bells and whistles, it's price ratio is utterly abysmal, meaning it won't pay itself off for me the same way the 1080ti has done for me since 2017 (The locked tech idea of Nvidia's also puts the GPU paying off into question).
The main reason I haven't scraped to try going AMD, is because I'm wanting an entirely new rig (minus the drives), and I'm not the type that wants to go for a GPU that's going to be woefully outdated very soon (as good as AMD is in raster, their current line are only going to get dwarfed more by Nvidia and AMD's later lines).
I'm basically damned if I do, damned if I don't, but none of this would have to be this way had nvidia not gotten greedy, since we know AMD follows Nvidia, this puts Nvidia themselves are the forefront of the problem that was self made (Also the US for not following the UK on anti-scalping laws, seriously why has the US not bothered with such an important law?).
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