Chazore said:
I just see it getting worse tbh. nvidia is only ever going to lower their prices due to not many buying in the middle to low end market, as they've since proven they don't care about the high end folks (since they buy regardless of price). Because AMD is focused on 2 markets as well as servers, I don't see them putting more eggs into their GPU side, simply because that requires more money, time and effort, all of that which isn't going to really pay off in their short term, due to how little gains they seem to get and how brand awareness seems to favour Nvidia most of the time. There is one way we could course correct this, and it has to be via us, the consumer, and that's to simply stop buying into Nvidia as a collective and either buy into AMD or Intel, but because no one truly works that way in society (even fans don't work as a collective entirely, even for the long-term goals they aspire for), Nvidia will just keep it's market share, and nothing will change. Crypto could absolutely come back, but Ai and Crypto bros have always been a background problematic type, and those can only be done away with if people cared enough to show them the door, consumers and corpos alike (which again, won't happen, because no one cares to change the status quo, not unless things get absolutely dire as hell, that no one can stand it). The thing is, while you've got the good job and the like, I'm some yrs older than you and not really in the best position (health issues have set me back from maintaining a job, and I'm still trying to get docs to work with me to get me back on my feet for nearly 3 yrs now), but I've also had to wait 3 gens for what I perceive as good value/perf, and despite the 4090 having all those bells and whistles, it's price ratio is utterly abysmal, meaning it won't pay itself off for me the same way the 1080ti has done for me since 2017 (The locked tech idea of Nvidia's also puts the GPU paying off into question). The main reason I haven't scraped to try going AMD, is because I'm wanting an entirely new rig (minus the drives), and I'm not the type that wants to go for a GPU that's going to be woefully outdated very soon (as good as AMD is in raster, their current line are only going to get dwarfed more by Nvidia and AMD's later lines). I'm basically damned if I do, damned if I don't, but none of this would have to be this way had nvidia not gotten greedy, since we know AMD follows Nvidia, this puts Nvidia themselves are the forefront of the problem that was self made (Also the US for not following the UK on anti-scalping laws, seriously why has the US not bothered with such an important law?). |
Not buying Nvidia and teaching them a lesson would be great but that isn't something that the market does as you said. If I skipped out on Nvidia, it wouldn't make any difference what so ever. So instead, for me buying a 4090 and seeing how it all plays out is I think the best move. Cause imo 4090 should last a long time if it comes to it even if it doesn't get DLSS 4. I haven't even used DLSS 2 at 4k with any game outside of cyberpunk with RT on.
The thing is, if AMD was attempting to be the good guys, I'd agree. But you look at the RDNA 3 launch. They priced 7900XTX to $1000, fair enough but then they increased the price of what should have been the 7800XT to $900 and called it the 7900XT. Nvidia has released 4 GPUs so far. 4090, 4080, 4070 Ti and 4070. Where is Radeons answer? Why are they only selling those two high end products?
Like don't get me wrong, they are obviously better than Nvidia for now as they are at least discounting their previous generation GPUs but I don't see them as being "the good guys." During the crypto days, they were right there with Nvidia with pricing their products high and they made the universally hated 6500XT. Not to mention when you looked back during the CPU launches, when the Ryzen 5000 series launched and Intel had no competition, AMD kept the prices high on those CPUs. And when people asked for budget, they released the garbage tier 5600G and 5700G with it's PCI-E gen 3 gimp. Why? Cause fuck budget users clearly. Only when Intel started being competitive did AMD release actual budget CPUs at budget prices like the 5600 after 1.5 years.
So I don't really see a future with going Radeon. If they gained market leadership, they would absolutely be as shitty as Nvidia has been. So why would I buy into them and deal with their half baked features? Just cause they make their half baked features work on old GPUs? If I am buying a new GPU, why wouldn't I want the real deal?
The 1080 Ti was legendary and the 4090 is 110% no 1080 Ti. The problem is, I don't know if we will get another 1080 Ti hence why it's the next best thing from my view. Cause look at how many games the 4090 can play at 4k Native with Ray Tracing enabled at well over 60fps. It's pretty dang impressive:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-founders-edition/34.html
Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 19 April 2023 
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