PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
So Valve did update their Steam Deck website in regards to the SSD.
Because it says socketed, most likely it is similar to Xbox where if you can get to it's location, you can probably replace it but because you have to remove quite a lot of things, it's not intended to be user replaceable and probably will void the warranty.
AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT LC with Navi 21 XTXH GPU has been tested
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt-lc-with-navi-21-xtxh-gpu-has-been-tested


The performance increase compared to a 6900XT is impressive and the main thing that increases is the memory bandwidth. If the 6900XT had a similar bandwidth to a 3090, I am sure RDNA 2 would have taken that crown, least in Raster. But for now, if you got money to spend, Nvidia continues to give you the most amount of features.
We don't know the price of this as I believe it's OEM only for now. But we know it's going to be more expensive than a standard 6900XT and at that point... May as well get a 3090!
Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 17 July 2021
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
| Captain_Yuri said: So Valve did update their Steam Deck website in regards to the SSD. Because it says socketed, most likely it is similar to Xbox where if you can get to it's location, you can probably replace it but because you have to remove quite a lot of things, it's not intended to be user replaceable and probably will void the warranty. |
I look forward to someone like Gamers Nexus doing a teardown to see exactly how hard it will be. It good to see that there are 512GB/1TB options in existence even through it look like you have to ship from Europe if you in north America to get it. That could change through if Steam Deck become popular.
As far as voiding warranty a lot of company try to claim that but by letter of law at least in USA companies are not suppose to be allowed to void your warranty for opening up any electronic device you own.
Valve also fairly good about replacing products under warranty at least if you go by the many many index controllers they have replaced under warranty. Great controller for VR but not the most durable controller out there.
I think the appeal of the Steam Deck vs a Switch can be summed up in 3 simple questions even if you ignore the vast advantages the PC platform gives you like a simple web browser or an ability to use Netflix:
Can a Switch allow you to play Horizon Zero Dawn on the go? Nope
Can a Switch allow you to play Halo on the go? Nope
Can a Steam Deck allow you to play Breath of the Wild on the go? Yep
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
Are we really going to turn this into a Decj vs Switch situation?
Please excuse my bad English.
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Well for some people to understand the appeal of the Steam Deck, we need to understand the unappealing aspects of the Switch and why there is a market for this. If the Switch had most of the advantages of the Steam Deck, then it wouldn't make the Steam Deck appealing. But some people can't grasp the concept that multiple handhelds can exist in the market without one of them failing.
Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 17 July 2021
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850
So it's fair to name the "unappealing aspects of the Switch", but not the ones for the Deck? Because the only time you've mentioned the weight, for example, is when replying to Boffer, and then you simply minimized the problem with a "This is much heavier yes but it's a full blown PC".
No system is perfect, there will always be trade-offs, and attacking on system for its shortcommings (and one that's already 4 years old), while forgetting or forgiving the ones from another is... well. do I need to say the word?
Oh, by the way, I checked Yuzu since it seems to be the more popular emulator and while yes, you can play Breath on the Wirld, they list the status as ok, which means "Game functions with major graphical or audio glitches, but game is playable from start to finish with workarounds." So yeah, you can play BotW, but if you want to enjoy it, a Switch is still your best option. And will still be if you want to play all its games without problems from day one.
Now don't get me wrong, I can see the appeal of the Steam Deck despite not being the target for it, but this seems more a competitor for mid-range gaming laptops rather than the Switch console.
Please excuse my bad English.
Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070
Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB
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Yeah its just another option for people who want to game on the go. People bashing on it probably won't ever get it and that's on them. I'm excited for the Deck want this to really take off and see more companies offer more PC's in this formfactor.
Also.. drum roll please. FSR vs DLSS comparison in Necromunda Hired Gun (4K)
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fsr-and-nvidia-dlss-comparison-shows-similar-quality-and-performance-at-4k-resolution-in-necromunda-hired-gun
FSR fares pretty well all considering! Ok so its not there with DLSS yet but its still mighty impressive and works with considerable more GPU's out there.
| Captain_Yuri said: Well for some people to understand the appeal of the Steam Deck, we need to understand the unappealing aspects of the Switch and why there is a market for this. If the Switch had most of the advantages of the Steam Deck, then it wouldn't make the Steam Deck appealing. But some people can't grasp the concept that multiple handhelds can exist in the market without one of them failing. |
I mean may as well since the moment the device was shown, it was already being said that it'd flop (despite the leaked pre-order numbers and clearly sold out stories).
Both can co-exist just like PC has, no need for the stupid "it's doomed" crap, because it doesn't happen to play 1st party Ninty games (even though it'll be emulating them for some folks).
Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.
| JEMC said: So it's fair to name the "unappealing aspects of the Switch", but not the ones for the Deck? Because the only time you've mentioned the weight, for example, is when replying to Boffer, and then you simply minimized the problem with a "This is much heavier yes but it's a full blown PC". No system is perfect, there will always be trade-offs, and attacking on system for its shortcommings (and one that's already 4 years old), while forgetting or forgiving the ones from another is... well. do I need to say the word? Oh, by the way, I checked Yuzu since it seems to be the more popular emulator and while yes, you can play Breath on the Wirld, they list the status as ok, which means "Game functions with major graphical or audio glitches, but game is playable from start to finish with workarounds." So yeah, you can play BotW, but if you want to enjoy it, a Switch is still your best option. And will still be if you want to play all its games without problems from day one. Now don't get me wrong, I can see the appeal of the Steam Deck despite not being the target for it, but this seems more a competitor for mid-range gaming laptops rather than the Switch console. |
I mean, we already understand the appeal of the switch. It's been out for 4 years and sold 90 million. There are many reasons to get the Switch but because the Steam Deck is so new and it's concept is so unique, it's harder for people to understand it's appeal. It's why I am highlighting many of it's strengths because others are highlighting it's weaknesses and not it's strengths. You mentioned Boffer's comment, go read his and see if he highlighted any positives about the Steam Deck. I am not saying the Steam Deck doesn't have any weaknesses but I do think people are also not understanding it's strengths.
And I wasn't referring to Yuzu for BoTW. Cemu does a much better job with BoTW on PC while looking significantly better. But yes, out of the box experience for Nintendo games, it would be better on the Switch.
http://wiki.cemu.info/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild
"Compatibility: Perfect"
And yes, I am not saying this is a direct competitor to the switch (as I have said in an number of previous posts). It's more so a direct competitor to other PC handhelds like the GPD Win and Aya Neo.
PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850