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Captain_Yuri said:

Alright so I think now that we have a good idea of where the CPUs and GPUs land, it's time to give out some recommendations! Now this is gonna be my own opinion thus it will have my own bias so free to make your own!

High End build:

CPU: Ryzen 5900X/5800X or Intel 10900k/10850k/11700k/10700k
GPU: 4k/1440P/Raster/RT/DLSS: Nvidia 3080 - 1440P/1080P/Raster/Okaysh RT: AMD 6800XT
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z CL 16 3600mhz 32GB
Motherboard: Asus Dark Hero for AMD or Asus Strix Z590-E for Intel.
PSU: Evga or Corsair 850 Watt
SSD: Western Digital SN850 for PCI-E 4.0 or Samsung 970 Evo for PCI-E 3.0
Case: Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL

Mid Ranged:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X/5600X or Intel 11700k/10700k/10600k
GPU: 1440p/1080p/Raster/RT/DLSS: Nvidia 3060 Ti/3070 - 1440P/1080P/Raster: AMD 6700XT
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V CL 16 3600mhz 16GB
Motherboard: MSI X570 Tomahawk / Asus TUF B550 for AMD or Gigabyte Aorus Elite Z590 / Asus Prime Z590P for Intel.
PSU: Evga or Corsair 750 Watt
SSD: Western Digital SN850 for PCI-E 4.0 or Samsung 970 Evo for PCI-E 3.0
Case: Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh

From what I have seen, some of the Z590 motherboards are actually cheaper than the Z490 while giving you more features and having support for both 10th and 11th gen Intel CPUs. But it will obviously depend on the store and etc.

Personally I think the GPU line up is split into two main categories. High End and Mid Ranged. And based on the performance numbers, I think the 3080 is the key high end GPU and the 3060 Ti is the Key Mid Ranged GPU. It's only 10% slower than a 3070 while costing $100 less at MSRP. It also has the same memory bandwidth and capacity as the 3070. It's similar to how the 970 was vs the 980... Well before people found out about the gimped vram and false cuda core count on the 970 which hopefully won't happen this time around. Also you can save typically around $100-$150 if you don't get ram with RGB.

Why no 11900K in the high-end? Or was that 11700K meant to be a 11900K?

Also, for the mid-ranged: Why no RX6800? Or is that one too big for your Mid-range but too weak for the high-end?



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Alright so I think now that we have a good idea of where the CPUs and GPUs land, it's time to give out some recommendations! Now this is gonna be my own opinion thus it will have my own bias so free to make your own!

High End build:

CPU: Ryzen 5900X/5800X or Intel 10900k/10850k/11700k/10700k
GPU: 4k/1440P/Raster/RT/DLSS: Nvidia 3080 - 1440P/1080P/Raster/Okaysh RT: AMD 6800XT
RAM: G.Skill Trident Z CL 16 3600mhz 32GB
Motherboard: Asus Dark Hero for AMD or Asus Strix Z590-E for Intel.
PSU: Evga or Corsair 850 Watt
SSD: Western Digital SN850 for PCI-E 4.0 or Samsung 970 Evo for PCI-E 3.0
Case: Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL

Mid Ranged:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X/5600X or Intel 11700k/10700k/10600k
GPU: 1440p/1080p/Raster/RT/DLSS: Nvidia 3060 Ti/3070 - 1440P/1080P/Raster: AMD 6700XT
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V CL 16 3600mhz 16GB
Motherboard: MSI X570 Tomahawk / Asus TUF B550 for AMD or Gigabyte Aorus Elite Z590 / Asus Prime Z590P for Intel.
PSU: Evga or Corsair 750 Watt
SSD: Western Digital SN850 for PCI-E 4.0 or Samsung 970 Evo for PCI-E 3.0
Case: Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh

From what I have seen, some of the Z590 motherboards are actually cheaper than the Z490 while giving you more features and having support for both 10th and 11th gen Intel CPUs. But it will obviously depend on the store and etc.

Personally I think the GPU line up is split into two main categories. High End and Mid Ranged. And based on the performance numbers, I think the 3080 is the key high end GPU and the 3060 Ti is the Key Mid Ranged GPU. It's only 10% slower than a 3070 while costing $100 less at MSRP. It also has the same memory bandwidth and capacity as the 3070. It's similar to how the 970 was vs the 980... Well before people found out about the gimped vram and false cuda core count on the 970 which hopefully won't happen this time around. Also you can save typically around $100-$150 if you don't get ram with RGB.

Why no 11900K in the high-end? Or was that 11700K meant to be a 11900K?

Also, for the mid-ranged: Why no RX6800? Or is that one too big for your Mid-range but too weak for the high-end?

Don't really know the performance of the 11900k plus I doubt it will be worth the extra price as it's also an 8 core 16 threaded part. Similar to how we don't know the performance of the i5 11600k.

Yea imo the 6800 is too pricey to be in the mid ranged and the 6800XT is a better gpu for "high end."



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Ka-pi96 said:
JEMC said:

48 million players use controllers on Steam
https://www.pcgamer.com/48-million-players-use-controllers-on-steam/
In a recent developer announcement about Steamworks tools, Valve gave some insight into the number of players using controllers on Steam, which is higher than ever and rising. "48 million players have used a controller in a game on Steam," writes Valve, with about 10 percent of daily game sessions being played with a controller."
Naturally these figures vary wildly across genre: for RTS games that figure is "frequently below 1 percent" whereas "many sports and fighting games see over 70 percent of sessions played with a controller, while racing and skating games can easily have over 90 percent of players using a controller." Third-person action games, your Assassin's Creeds and so on, fluctuate between 40-50 percent of players using controllers, while for FPSs it's "solidly in the range of 7-8 percent."

And I'm one of them! Yay

Mouse and keyboard is fine for strategy games, but for anything else it just sucks! Would much rather use a controller for all other genres.

Pfft for FPS, keyboard and mouse trashes controller its not funny.

And you call yourself a PC gamer! :PP



The problem with controllers (for me) is the slow turns, deadzones and relying on game settings. Like acceleration and aim assists and that's just to keep up with KB+M. But yeah each to their own :P

Last edited by hinch - on 06 March 2021

Would never play an FPS with a controller. That's the sole reason why I never bought Horizon on PS4. As soon as a game has aiming in it it's an automatic KBM game. Hate 3D adventure games that make you aim with a controller. Had to play Immortals on keyboard and it was absolute torture because of the many mechanics. Had to switch to controller for some segments.



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Captain_Yuri said:

Altus has a new survey up which you can fill to let them know your preference if you like:

https://personacentral.com/atlus-2021-online-consumer-survey/

The only kicker is that it takes 45 minutes to complete it!

DF revisited Horizon Zero Dawn on PC to see if the patches did anything

TLDW: Lots of improvements and fixes but still has some issues left. Went from Disappointing to Okay.

After the last patch in december, I installed it. Played it in 4k, 60 fps. fiddled a bit with the settings, but the game is absolutely gorgeous. And it's a good game too, really satisfying. I kinda like the story, the world, the lore.

The only minor complaint, is the lighting, it shows its age. 

2080 Ti, Ryzen 7 3800X

Last edited by Killy_Vorkosigan - on 07 March 2021

Ka-pi96 said:
hinch said:

Pfft for FPS, keyboard and mouse trashes controller its not funny.

And you call yourself a PC gamer! :PP

Nah, even for FPS keyboard and mouse sucks. It's just not fun.

Controllers are much more fun for FPS games.

For FPS games, controllers are only frustrating me with their inaccuracy and slowness. The additional Gyro controls on the Wii U and Switch really helped for Splatoon, but without those, I can't play FPS on a console, ever!

But maybe this stems from me still treating and playing FPS like they are UT or Quake, so very fast-paced. You simply couldn't keep up with that with a controller.



Intel 11th Gen Core “Tiger Lake-H” Specifications leaked

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-11th-gen-core-tiger-lake-h-specifications-leaked

It will be interesting seeing an 8 core 10nm CPU even if it's only for laptops and more of a stepping stone for Alder Lake.



Intel 12th Gen Core “Alder Lake Mobile” lineup has been leaked



https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-12th-gen-core-alder-lake-mobile-lineup-has-been-leaked

The interesting thing is how majority of the cpus are getting the 8 small cores including a lot of the 2 big cores as well. This will certainly be interesting for mobile chips as it should allow even budget laptops to have good performance compared to current budget laptops.


AMD might be working on RDNA cryptomining cards

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-might-be-working-on-rdna-cryptomining-cards

Now unlike Nvidia where 3/4 cards are based on Turing where it's a different fab and process than Ampere which results in more gpu production without affecting Ampere allocation... These are based on RDNA 1 which uses TSMCs 7nm which actually will affect RDNA 2s GPU allocation.




AMD recommends Radeon RX 6800 XT for Resident Evil Village with raytracing

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-recommends-radeon-rx-6800-xt-for-resident-evil-village-with-raytracing

Now of course, it would be weird if AMD listed a 3000 series on their own website as a requirement. But on the other hand, we did have GodFall not having any support for 3000 series RT at launch and said it will be patched in at a later date. So who knows. It does show that most likely, if you get a 6700XT, you probably won't be turning on Ray Tracing if AMD's own website doesn't recommend it.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 07 March 2021

                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Do we know the resolution those specs are recommended for? If it's for 4K, it makes sense to list the 6800XT. Meanwhile, for 1440p or 1080p, the 6700-/XT could be enough.



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Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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It doesn't say really.

The only info we have is:

"Without Ray Tracing, 5700XT. With Ray Tracing, 6800XT"

Unless it's only shadows, I doubt the 6800XT will be able to do RT at 4k. If anything, 6800XT will be RT at 1440p or lower and 6700XT will need to turn down various RT settings.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850