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WoodenPints said:
JEMC said:

I know that Nvidia "doesn't care" who gets their cards, but they do care about their brand image and the PR consequences of this move from Zotac. After all, Nvidia has publicly complained about the problems that mining is causing (another thing is what they think or say in private, probably happy to be able to sell every single chip they make. Same for AMD), and so if now they don't do anything, the pointing fingers will go from Zotac to them, and Nvidia doesn't want to be seen as the bad guys here.

Because of this, I expect Nvidia will come out and say something about this, even if it's a lot of nothing like "we'll revise our agreement with our partners to make sure that supply goes to our primary consumers, the gaming community" or something similar.

I hope your right and they do something by cutting AIB supplies that are taking the mick and I'd love to see Nvidia and AIB partners step in and blacklist the legit retailers that are basically scalping consumers.

I do always wonder how the current state of the GPU market affects developers and game sales as personally I won't buy any new games including stuff from the past few months until I can get a new GPU to up the graphics even though I could play them on my current hardware meaning developers are loosing a full price sale from me as their games will be half price or lower by the time I get a new GPU and get around to buying them, Anyone else do the same or still buying up new games?

I'd love for Nvidia to do something about it, but I doubt they'll do anything other than a press release that will end in nothing. And given that AMD is in the same situation, the market share won't change, and devs will go as they had already planned.

When it comes to games, I stopped buying them at release a long time ago. For someone like me that hates to play "incomplete" games, it's more sensible (and cheaper!) to wait and grab the GOTY/Gold/Complete editions that not only have all the content, but also have most of the bugs fixed.



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

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WoodenPints said:

I've always been obsessed with trying to make my PC as quiet as possible but I generally game with sound fairly loud so it probably doesn't matter that much it's just one of those things I always feel inclined to strive for. On the other hand if you've every had a PS4 in your house you could buy the loudest PC parts you can find and still have a quieter PC by comparison.

I have no reason to believe the situation has changed significantly, so I'm going to assume there are GPUs as loud as my GTX 970. It sounds like a vibrator (and not a quiet one, I would assume), and it has caused more than one debate with my significant other... On the other hand, my PS4 slim feels extremely quiet compared to this. The original fat PS4 was in another league though... But currently, the loudest piece of gaming equipment here is my GTX 970, and it will make me pay attention to noise levels when I'm getting as new one (which is as soon as GTX 3060 actually hits the market at a decent price). I don't personally even mind a bit of noise, but even I find this somewhat annoying.



Launching battle.net launcher after the overhaul update



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Captain_Yuri said:

Launching battle.net launcher after the overhaul update

Me seeing Call of Duty and Crash under "fave games" tab, that I never created



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Cyran said:

I glad noise is something that never really bothered me. Compare to the days I use to air cool my CPU with a Vantec 92mm Tornado fan my computer is quiet. I actually did not even have a fan controller on it until I moved to college and got one in order to not drive my dormmate insane.

Probably the loudest thing in my current computer is the coil wine my 3090 make every time I load into a game. Once I start playing I don't really notice it and I just don't care enough to attempt to RMA it and hope I get a replacement this decade so I just keeping it.

I also got clicking from my flow meter, eventually I just replace it with a digital one but again it just become white noise for me so not motivated to do it.

The 20 fans I use actually not that noisy with how I got fan curve setup. unless the water temp get really hot which don't seem to happen even during long gaming sessions. If I manually set all the fans too 100% then it really really loud but other then if I trying to push a benchmark which not something I do it really no reason to ever set the fans at that level.

As long as the noise constant and not randomly going in and out (like having one broken fan that randomly rattle would drive me crazy so I would replace that quick) it just become white noise for me so it got to be really loud to bother me.

20 fans? Assuming you use them in a push-pull configuration, how many radiators do you have? A 240/280 plus a 360 radiators one would need 10 fans max, add a couple more as intake and exhaust, and that still doesn't make 20.

Zkuq said:
WoodenPints said:

I've always been obsessed with trying to make my PC as quiet as possible but I generally game with sound fairly loud so it probably doesn't matter that much it's just one of those things I always feel inclined to strive for. On the other hand if you've every had a PS4 in your house you could buy the loudest PC parts you can find and still have a quieter PC by comparison.

I have no reason to believe the situation has changed significantly, so I'm going to assume there are GPUs as loud as my GTX 970. It sounds like a vibrator (and not a quiet one, I would assume), and it has caused more than one debate with my significant other... On the other hand, my PS4 slim feels extremely quiet compared to this. The original fat PS4 was in another league though... But currently, the loudest piece of gaming equipment here is my GTX 970, and it will make me pay attention to noise levels when I'm getting as new one (which is as soon as GTX 3060 actually hits the market at a decent price). I don't personally even mind a bit of noise, but even I find this somewhat annoying.

You're not fooling anyone, mate. The cat is out and now we know it! XD



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

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JEMC said:
Cyran said:

I glad noise is something that never really bothered me. Compare to the days I use to air cool my CPU with a Vantec 92mm Tornado fan my computer is quiet. I actually did not even have a fan controller on it until I moved to college and got one in order to not drive my dormmate insane.

Probably the loudest thing in my current computer is the coil wine my 3090 make every time I load into a game. Once I start playing I don't really notice it and I just don't care enough to attempt to RMA it and hope I get a replacement this decade so I just keeping it.

I also got clicking from my flow meter, eventually I just replace it with a digital one but again it just become white noise for me so not motivated to do it.

The 20 fans I use actually not that noisy with how I got fan curve setup. unless the water temp get really hot which don't seem to happen even during long gaming sessions. If I manually set all the fans too 100% then it really really loud but other then if I trying to push a benchmark which not something I do it really no reason to ever set the fans at that level.

As long as the noise constant and not randomly going in and out (like having one broken fan that randomly rattle would drive me crazy so I would replace that quick) it just become white noise for me so it got to be really loud to bother me.

20 fans? Assuming you use them in a push-pull configuration, how many radiators do you have? A 240/280 plus a 360 radiators one would need 10 fans max, add a couple more as intake and exhaust, and that still doesn't make 20.

My case gigantic.  I posted the fill specs here https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9173059 but short answer I got 3x560 radiators with 4x140mm fans each (so 12 on radiators).  one radiator at the bottom on right side so on left side got additional 4 fans so air blow through the bottom then in top section there 4 intakes on the front of case which give a total of 20.



JEMC said:
Cyran said:

I glad noise is something that never really bothered me. Compare to the days I use to air cool my CPU with a Vantec 92mm Tornado fan my computer is quiet. I actually did not even have a fan controller on it until I moved to college and got one in order to not drive my dormmate insane.

Probably the loudest thing in my current computer is the coil wine my 3090 make every time I load into a game. Once I start playing I don't really notice it and I just don't care enough to attempt to RMA it and hope I get a replacement this decade so I just keeping it.

I also got clicking from my flow meter, eventually I just replace it with a digital one but again it just become white noise for me so not motivated to do it.

The 20 fans I use actually not that noisy with how I got fan curve setup. unless the water temp get really hot which don't seem to happen even during long gaming sessions. If I manually set all the fans too 100% then it really really loud but other then if I trying to push a benchmark which not something I do it really no reason to ever set the fans at that level.

As long as the noise constant and not randomly going in and out (like having one broken fan that randomly rattle would drive me crazy so I would replace that quick) it just become white noise for me so it got to be really loud to bother me.

20 fans? Assuming you use them in a push-pull configuration, how many radiators do you have? A 240/280 plus a 360 radiators one would need 10 fans max, add a couple more as intake and exhaust, and that still doesn't make 20.

Zkuq said:

I have no reason to believe the situation has changed significantly, so I'm going to assume there are GPUs as loud as my GTX 970. It sounds like a vibrator (and not a quiet one, I would assume), and it has caused more than one debate with my significant other... On the other hand, my PS4 slim feels extremely quiet compared to this. The original fat PS4 was in another league though... But currently, the loudest piece of gaming equipment here is my GTX 970, and it will make me pay attention to noise levels when I'm getting as new one (which is as soon as GTX 3060 actually hits the market at a decent price). I don't personally even mind a bit of noise, but even I find this somewhat annoying.

You're not fooling anyone, mate. The cat is out and now we know it! XD

Oh, you got me!



Cyran said:
JEMC said:

20 fans? Assuming you use them in a push-pull configuration, how many radiators do you have? A 240/280 plus a 360 radiators one would need 10 fans max, add a couple more as intake and exhaust, and that still doesn't make 20.

My case gigantic.  I posted the fill specs here https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9173059 but short answer I got 3x560 radiators with 4x140mm fans each (so 12 on radiators).  one radiator at the bottom on right side so on left side got additional 4 fans so air blow through the bottom then in top section there 4 intakes on the front of case which give a total of 20.

My god! That's not a case, that's a small closet!



Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

JEMC said:
Cyran said:

My case gigantic.  I posted the fill specs here https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9173059 but short answer I got 3x560 radiators with 4x140mm fans each (so 12 on radiators).  one radiator at the bottom on right side so on left side got additional 4 fans so air blow through the bottom then in top section there 4 intakes on the front of case which give a total of 20.

My god! That's not a case, that's a small closet!

Imagine bringing that to a Lan Party...



Bofferbrauer2 said:
JEMC said:

My god! That's not a case, that's a small closet!

Imagine bringing that to a Lan Party...

LOL, that would be a challenge.  On the subject of movability my original vision was I would bring it to the basement when I needed to clean water loop etc with a hand cart.  I bought one design for going up steps.  I built the entire thing in my basement and my computer room is on second floor. 

Easy to move around on the floor with it wheels they work great but even tied tightly to the handcart I bought it was way scarier and harder to get it up the 2 flight of steps then I thought it would be.  I probably stupidly brought it up completely filled since I did my original leak testing in basement.  That thing am pretty sure weighed over 100 pounds.  Truthfully I amaze I got it into the computer room with no damage other then some minor scuff marks from bumping dry wall that washed out easily.

After doing that once I knew I was never taking it down those steps so when I do upgrades/maintenance I just throw a big Tarp on the floor in my computer room and do it there.