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Yeah that just shows you how much intels higher end CPU's so far behind to AMD's on their current CPU's. When you need a TEC to keep them running optimally. Also it makes so little sense in getting a 10900K for a new power user since you could get a 5900X/5950X for the same or similar amount of money, then add a decent cooler like a Noctua N15 or Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4.. which by most metrics destroys it.In addition to being quieter, more energy efficient and considerably cheaper on top of features like PCI-E 4 and SAM.

But if you're an Intel fan and like expensive heaters why not xD

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Captain_Yuri said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Congrats! I am waiting for the Dark Hero

What are the differences between the Hero and Dark Hero (apart from 4 additional USB 2.0 and lack of support for Picasso)?

The two main things are that a) It's fanless b) It's the only motherboard that we know of so far that allows Single Core boost to work when you do an all core overclock. With Ryzen including 5000 series, when you overclock every core to say 4.7 Ghz, you no longer get that Single Core boost to 5Ghz when running Single Core heavy tasks. So depending on the game and application, you could "lose" performance. But with the Dark Hero, it does auto switching. So when you have an application that is heavy on mutlicores, you get the OC clocks and when you have an application that is heavy on Single Cores, you get that 5Ghz boost on the single core vs every other motherboard that's one or the other.



Since it's supposed to be $20 more than the regular hero wifi, it's well worth it if you are looking in that price range. Especially afaik, Aorus X570 Xtreme is the only other X570 that's fanless but that costs $750 and doesn't have the other feature vs $400sh for the Dark Hero.

Thanks for the explanation!

I won't overclock (seeing how little effect it had at both Hardware Unboxed and Gamer's Nexus, I don't really see the point), but the fact that it's fanless certainly interests me a lot. I was initially going for a B550 for this very reason (MSI Gaming Edge or Gaming Carbon are my favorites right now) considering how expensive the Aorus is, but this brings it a lot closer to my budget now...

Marth said:
TECs are crazy powerhungry.Intel doing its job in protecting the environment ;)

At least they don't use a 1500W chiller this time around...

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Ok guys, gimme some hard facts now. I need cooling for my 5900X.

No custom water loops.

Air cooling would only be Noctua D15 and nothing else.

AIBs are on the table and prefered. 3x120mm if possible.

Money is irrelevant.

So what should I buy?



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Captain_Yuri said:
Nzxt z63/z73

I'm gonna pretend you mean the X73 and put it on my list.



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The EK-AIO 360 another one you should look into.



vivster said:

Ok guys, gimme some hard facts now. I need cooling for my 5900X.

No custom water loops.

Air cooling would only be Noctua D15 and nothing else.

AIBs are on the table and prefered. 3x120mm if possible.

Money is irrelevant.

So what should I buy?

be quiet! Pure Loop

Is pretty quiet in it's 2x140mm version (there's also a 2x120mm and 3x120mm versions, but haven't tested those) and cools very efficiently with lots of headroom for overclocking (I know somebody who cooled an overclocked FX 5950 centurion with it). Also, while money is irrelevant to you, it's just 100 Euro.

The 3x120mm version supports 470W TDP, so that should be more than enough for the 5900X



Cyran said:
The EK-AIO 360 another one you should look into.

Is there a more exact product description? The ones I looked at are kinda weird and all come with a separate water reservoir, which I'm not a fan of.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
vivster said:

Ok guys, gimme some hard facts now. I need cooling for my 5900X.

No custom water loops.

Air cooling would only be Noctua D15 and nothing else.

AIBs are on the table and prefered. 3x120mm if possible.

Money is irrelevant.

So what should I buy?

be quiet! Pure Loop

Is pretty quiet in it's 2x140mm version (there's also a 2x120mm and 3x120mm versions, but haven't tested those) and cools very efficiently with lots of headroom for overclocking (I know somebody who cooled an overclocked FX 5950 centurion with it). Also, while money is irrelevant to you, it's just 100 Euro.

The 3x120mm version supports 470W TDP, so that should be more than enough for the 5900X

This is for sure gonna be the newest hottest(haha) contender. Didn't know BeQuiet even makes those. Since I already know them and know how freakishly quiet their fans are, this might just be it.

If only they made digital PSUs.



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vivster said:
Cyran said:
The EK-AIO 360 another one you should look into.

Is there a more exact product description? The ones I looked at are kinda weird and all come with a separate water reservoir, which I'm not a fan of.

You must of been looking at the now discontinue EK MLC Phoenix which was sorta a product without a consumer base.  No one wants a hybrid between AIO and custom.  Most people want to do one or the other.

The one I referring to is a true AIO

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-360-d-rgb

Here a written review of it by Gamenexus 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3596-ek-aio-drgb-360-240-review-liquid-coolers



For those of us more down to Earth, with smaller wallets than some of our colleagues here, this may be interesting, and also a bit baffling:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 rumored with up to 12GB memory to launch in January
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-rumored-with-up-to-12gb-memory-to-launch-in-january
It would appear that NVIDIA is planning to answer next-gen Radeon graphics cards increasing memory capacities. The manufacturer has recently provided a new roadmap with upcoming products to its board partners, going as far as January.

Four GeForce SKUs in January 

We have already confirmed that NVIDIA is planning to launch its GeForce RTX 3080 Ti in January, however, this high-end SKU is not the only model being planned for this month. In January NVIDIA is also planning to launch GeForce RTX 3060, RTX 3050 Ti, and RTX 3050. The 3050 Ti was originally planned for February, but it appears that the plans have been changed recently.

GeForce RTX 3060

At least four variants of PG190 board design have discussed internally. It would appear that this board will be pin-compatible with both GA104 and GA106 GPUs. We already knew that the upcoming RTX 3060 Ti is using this board. NVIDIA also confirmed to AIBs that PG190 will be adopted by both RTX 3060 and RTX 3050 Ti. Those graphics cards will feature GA106 GPU.

When it comes to RTX 3060 specifically, NVIDIA has recently updated the PG190 SKU 30 board (RTX 3060 6GB 14Gbps) to PG190 SKU 40 (6GB 16Gbps). Only to update it last week to PG190 SKU 50, now featuring 12GB 16Gbps configuration. All these SKUs have different memory configurations. The changes to the CUDA core count (3840) are not listed and thus not expected.

GeForce RTX 3050 and RTX 3050 Ti

The cut-down GA106 GPU (GA106-300) will be used by GeForce RTX 3050 Ti. This card will also have a 192-bit memory bus, but the memory capacity is expected at 6GB. The graphics card is rumored to offer 3584 CUDA cores.

Lastly, the RTX 3050 is rumored to use a cut-down GA107 GPU. This is an entry-level SKU expected to ship with 2304 CUDA cores. Right now, NVIDIA is planning 4GB GDDR6 memory for this SKU (the GPU has a 128-bit bus). A leaker Koptite7kimi recently posted that this card will have a TGP of 90W.

There's a chance we could get a 3060 cerd with more memory than a more expensive 3070. Or maybe not, maybe they'll rethink it and cancel that sku like they cancelled the 16 and 20GB versions of the higher end cards.



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