I will say that Nvidia coming out with a 20gb model shortly after 10gb models release is pretty urghh worthy for early adopters. Personally, because I am on the xx80 cycle, I doubt I am gonna need 10gb of vram before the 4000 series or even 5000 series  comes out so I won't be canceling my order. Still, would have been nice to have a choice from the beginning.

nah, stick with it dude. I'm still going for a 3080 10gb model early next yr myself. I'll wait n' see what the 4000 series brings and decide then in a few yrs. Consoles have to do with what they've got this new gen, so I doubt we'll be heavily gimped with our VRAM. 

Yea I am not worried about consoles since I am sure the 3080 can beat them the entire gen without any issues. It's just you know a game will come eventually that will be like doom where if u have a bit less Vram, you get lower performance at 4k. Still the 10gb will have very excellent performance mind you but this kinda practice is nonsense assuming it's even coming out anytime soon that is. Then again, if it does come out, it will probably be $100-$200 more expensive with little to no fps gain so could end up being one of those, may as well get the cheaper version.

I was going to wish you good luck with that but, if those performance results are true, I don't know if you've dodged a bullet there.

In any case, good luck.

Exactly.

I just don't see the 20gb variants being any better than the 3080 by a large margin, to offset the extra $200, and even then it'll never beat the 3090, otherwise if it cost a few more than the 3080, but beats the 3090, that'd make the 3090 entirely more pointless.

I think Nvidia screwed up here though, in doing this just now. They could have solved this by just forgoing the 10gb version and just make us wait till early next yr for the 20gb 3080 and make that the default, rather than pulling this "we've gotta out-spam AMD with as many ti's, gb's and Super's as much as possible!" idea they've got going. 

Just by pure math the 3090 cannot possibly be better than 20% faster. And that is only the best case theoretical scenario. In games it will be 15% or less.

After looking at a ton of reviews, it's essentially coming down to MSI Gaming Trio, Asus Tuf and Evga FTW3.

So really, MSI or Asus until Evga hires a design team that isn't 12 years old..

Asus = better card build wise. Dual Bios with quiet and performance mode. The temps in performance mode is pretty low. Aluminum back plate and etc. Tire marks. Dual 8 pin connector.

MSI = worse card build wise. Plastic, single BIOS, temps higher than Asus in performance bios however MSI is quieter than Asus in performance bios. Does come with a sag brace to prevent GPU from sagging. Triple 8 pin connector.

MSI gets consistently higher clocks/fps in majority of the reviews generally hovering around 2000-2025 mhz sometimes hitting 2070 mhz vs Asus generally being around 1970-2000mhz. But that essentially translates to 1-2fps at best.

So personally if I had a choice, I'd go with the Asus Tuf as it feels more premium than MSI even if MSI performs slightly better. Can't go wrong with either though. Avoid Zotac and Palit like the plague as those perform worse than Founders.

Wireless makes it a bit tricky as I never had good experience with cheap wireless controllers for PC with the exception of Xbox One wireless controller on sale so that would be my suggestion as you can connect it to PC via Bluetooth or dongle.

It depends on whether or not your computer has Bluetooth. If it does, it's easy to pair the controller and it works pretty well in my experience. If not, you need to get the xbox wireless controller dongle:

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/adapters/wireless-adapter-windows

Personally it's best to get either a 360 controller or a xbox one controller when they are on sale as they have the best compatibility with windows games while having really good build quality. There are cheap ones but like the Logitech F310 (no rumble) or 510 or 710 which have good reviews but really, it's better to get a refurbished 360 controller than any of those.

I'm using an Xbox One controller with the USB cable and, besides having troubles to make the rumble work in Steam, I'm quite happy with it. I've been using it for years and it still looks almost like new.