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vivster said:
Captain_Yuri said:

$1399 is Fake, doesn't fit the 21 theme

It's a typo. It actually means $1398 which is 21 as the sum of all digits.

Now that is something I can get behind

I will say that if we can get a 3090 with 24GB of Vram for that price, I'd buy it in a heart beat. Maybe not the founders but rather from someone like Asus



                  

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Sega will "aggressively" focus on PC ports after Steam strength during lockdown

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-08-19-sega-to-aggressively2



                  

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Rhonin the wizard said:

Brian Mitsoda has been fired from his position as narrative lead on Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2. Ka’ai Cluney, creative director, is also no longer working on it. And Alexandre Mandryka has been brought in as creative consultant.

Paradox statement

https://www.bloodlines2.com/en/an-update-on-the-organizational-changes-for-bloodlines-2

Email to RPS from Brian Mitsoda

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/08/19/brian-mitsoda-has-been-fired-as-narrative-lead-on-bloodlines-2/

I was looking forward to the game, but I find this development worrying. I was considering pre-ordering, but now I will wait for it to release and see how it is.

Good call. When there are so many changes at the top of a development project, and tno cause is given, it's because something fishy is going on.



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A new patch from HZD, another set of issues not being fixed again...

This is what we get for Sony relying on a sideline studio I guess. Hamfisted port, hamfisted patching. 



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I'm legit buying a new case because I don't think mine will be able to cope with the heat output from the new GPUs.

I know that'll probably be an unpopular opinion but PC components should be subject to the same power saving laws that lamps, air conditioners etc. have faced in the last few decades. People were consuming more power than whole countries to mine bitcoins a while back for God's sake. The idea that a single chip would need 250 - 400 watts to function no longer fits today's zeitgeist.



 

 

 

 

 

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haxxiy said:

I'm legit buying a new case because I don't think mine will be able to cope with the heat output from the new GPUs.

I know that'll probably be an unpopular opinion but PC components should be subject to the same power saving laws that lamps, air conditioners etc. have faced in the last few decades. People were consuming more power than whole countries to mine bitcoins a while back for God's sake. The idea that a single chip would need 250 - 400 watts to function no longer fits today's zeitgeist.

That's one of my main concerns as well. my current corsair case has a side drive bay and I feel like that's affected the two fans in front of the bay in terms of pulling in heat (it's going through metal holes, a thick mesh and then the drive bays which is quite bad imo). I think my next case is going to go with some high pressure static fans (large) and a drive bay hidden at the bottom. Might even try going for a water-cooled GPU block this time, since I'm losing interest in fan based GPU's (my CPU sports a closed loop cooler and that's been doing me fine the past few years).



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Captain_Yuri said:
vivster said:

It's a typo. It actually means $1398 which is 21 as the sum of all digits.

Now that is something I can get behind

I will say that if we can get a 3090 with 24GB of Vram for that price, I'd buy it in a heart beat. Maybe not the founders but rather from someone like Asus

If the price around 1399 I probably buy the cheapest EVGA model that using the reference PCB.  I don't care about the included cooling solution since I be removing it for a water block and it just much easier to find a waterblock for versions that use the reference PCB.  I like EVGA because they always been reliable to me and the way they mount there coolers in the past have always been straight forward and uncomplicated to remove for adding a waterblock.

The decision is will I wait for a waterblock to be available or just go buy it.  There probably enough airflow in my case that running it with the air cooler till I can get a water block will be fine.  I can just disconnect the power to gpu loop pumps till then.



haxxiy said:

The idea that a single chip would need 250 - 400 watts to function no longer fits today's zeitgeist.

gaming PC: 0.3 - 0.6 kW per hour

electric car: ~20 kW per hour

Seems like driving for fun in Forza is still a lot more environment friendly than driving an electric car for fun... let alone driving a gasoline car for fun.

And flying for fun in the Microsoft Flight Simulator could also be a bit more environment friendly than flying real planes for fun.

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A bit of an interesting article when it comes to Series X and ray tracing since it's related to RDNA 2.0

https://www.pcgamer.com/xbox-architect-on-ray-tracing-developers-still-want-to-use-traditional-rendering-techniques-without-a-performance-penalty/

It seems that Microsoft is less than enthused about the prospect of ray tracing in the Xbox Series X, despite it being deemed the 'ultimate in realism.' In a Hot Chips deep dive on the AMD-powered GPU at the heart of the next-gen console, Mark Grossman, principal architect at Microsoft, has detailed the graphics silicon inside the Series X and just what role ray tracing has in it.

The short answer seems to be: not much. 

The dual compute units (DCU) of the Big Navi-like GPU inside the Xbox Series X do have specific hardware dedicated to accelerating the real-time ray tracing process. But that seems to be the only change to the RDNA 2.0 dual compute unit compared with the first-gen ones found in the AMD RX 5700-series cards.

"The overall ray tracing speed up varies a lot, but for this task it can be up to 10x the performance of a pure shader-based implementation."

"We do support DirectX Raytracing acceleration, for the ultimate in realism™, but in this generation developers still want to use traditional rendering techniques, developed over decades, without a performance penalty," says Grossman sadly. "They can apply ray tracing selectively, where materials and environments demand, so we wanted a good balance of die resources dedicated to the two techniques."

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Of course, those are pretty vague statements but it will be interesting to see how RDNA 2 performs

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Captain_Yuri said:

$1399 is Fake, doesn't fit the 21 theme

It's just 33% off at launch