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Something tells me that the leak on September 1st will put all the other leaks to rest



                  

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hinch said:
Zkuq said:

50? Did you mean 500 or is that a typo? Because I used to have 120 GB for Windows + software other than games, and I ran out of space and had to get a bigger one. Visual Studio was probably the biggest single criminal against my SSD...

Yeah 500GB lol. I don't think there is a 50GB SSD.

50GB drives exist. They used to be far more common 5+ years ago during the SLC and MLC NAND era.



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The more you know. That's tiny lol. Windows 7 64bit would have taken up half of that.

How times have changed.



hinch said:
The more you know. That's tiny lol. Windows 7 64bit would have taken up half of that.

How times have changed.

Back in 2009 during the early years of SSD's, you were a "king" if you had a 64GB SSD... And basically wealthy if you had a 128 SSD, 256GB and larger drives were obscenely expensive.
Back then a 32GB SSD wasn't uncommon either.

Often though many "50GB" SSD's were actually 64GB, but manufacturers count a Gigabyte in terms of "1000" bytes rather than the appropriate 1024, so you ended up with 62.5GB of real-world space... And then drive manufacturers would take a chunk of that NAND for spare-area/garbage collection and wear levelling bringing it down to 50GB.

In-fact many SSD cache drives like Optaine, Crucial Adrenaline had 50GB storage capacities as well for various reasons.
It's an odd-ball capacity.

Windows 7 though did take up a chunk of storage space, I think it took about a 3rd of my 64GB SSD back in 2009, but you can claw some space back by reducing page file size, limiting recycle bin capacity and getting rid of hibernation and the hyberfil file which is the same size as your Ram capacity.

Obviously a non-issue in 2020 with drives being super cheap even at 500GB... Unless you have 256GB of Ram, then the hiberfil file will take 256GB of disk space... But you could afford to have more than 500GB of SSD storage anyway.



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The initial inspiration for the PS4 cooling system?

5:25-5:40 (Fan noise)

I've seen some odd/unique coolers, but this thing takes the cake in terms of visual marketability. Back in 2004 I totally would have bought this if I had known about it, no matter the performance. lol



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Pemalite said:
hinch said:
The more you know. That's tiny lol. Windows 7 64bit would have taken up half of that.

How times have changed.

Back in 2009 during the early years of SSD's, you were a "king" if you had a 64GB SSD... And basically wealthy if you had a 128 SSD, 256GB and larger drives were obscenely expensive.
Back then a 32GB SSD wasn't uncommon either.

Often though many "50GB" SSD's were actually 64GB, but manufacturers count a Gigabyte in terms of "1000" bytes rather than the appropriate 1024, so you ended up with 62.5GB of real-world space... And then drive manufacturers would take a chunk of that NAND for spare-area/garbage collection and wear levelling bringing it down to 50GB.

In-fact many SSD cache drives like Optaine, Crucial Adrenaline had 50GB storage capacities as well for various reasons.
It's an odd-ball capacity.

Windows 7 though did take up a chunk of storage space, I think it took about a 3rd of my 64GB SSD back in 2009, but you can claw some space back by reducing page file size, limiting recycle bin capacity and getting rid of hibernation and the hyberfil file which is the same size as your Ram capacity.

Obviously a non-issue in 2020 with drives being super cheap even at 500GB... Unless you have 256GB of Ram, then the hiberfil file will take 256GB of disk space... But you could afford to have more than 500GB of SSD storage anyway.

Interesting. Yeah I remember when early SSD were THE thing and they were expensive and out of reach for most people. 128GB+ was seen as unobtainable to most consumers due to silly prices.

Its the same with high capacity harddrives when I was growing up. It's pretty fascinating seeing how tech evolves. And now we have affordable GPU's  capable of full RT and VR which was unthinkable 10 years ago.

I remember looking back and growing up with small MP3 players with tiny MB's of flash drives (yes I know lol), which then turned to the modern IPOD, and then to smartphones. Who knows maybe in 10 years from now HDD's will be all but a thing of past but for data centres and businesses.



EricHiggin said:

The initial inspiration for the PS4 cooling system?

5:25-5:40 (Fan noise)

-snip-

I've seen some odd/unique coolers, but this thing takes the cake in terms of visual marketability. Back in 2004 I totally would have bought this if I had known about it, no matter the performance. lol

Haha, I had one of these. Those axial fans were so noisy when set to high and whiney - just like in the video lol. And 80mm fans everywhere back in those days; from CPU coolers, to case fans and even some PSU's.

Pretty much sounded like a jet engine when playing games with all those fans spinning.



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hinch said:
EricHiggin said:

The initial inspiration for the PS4 cooling system?

5:25-5:40 (Fan noise)

-snip-

I've seen some odd/unique coolers, but this thing takes the cake in terms of visual marketability. Back in 2004 I totally would have bought this if I had known about it, no matter the performance. lol

Haha, I had one of these. Those axial fans were so noisy when set to high and whiney - just like in the video lol. And 80mm fans everywhere back in those days; from CPU coolers, to case fans and even some PSU's.

Pretty much sounded like a jet engine when playing games with all those fans spinning.

I assume it was a reasonably decent cooler back then, or was it all show and no flow?

Ya my rigs back then had like 4X-6X 80mm case fans, 2X 80mm PSU fans, and 1X 80mm or 92mm CPU fan. They were LOUD, but acceptably cool. I wasn't well versed enough at that time to understand fan noise quality, cfm, etc, so I just made sure every intake and exhaust port was used and that the fans weren't too cheap so they would actually last more than a few years. That was when LED fans actually meant something to me and had to be taken seriously into consideration when choosing. Since LED's added like 10% performance, so ya know...

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EricHiggin said:

I assume it was a reasonably decent cooler back then, or was it all show and no flow?

Ya my rigs back then had like 4X-6X 80mm case fans, 2X 80mm PSU fans, and 1X 80mm or 92mm CPU fan. They were LOUD, but acceptably cool. I wasn't well versed enough at that time to understand fan noise quality, cfm, etc, so I just made sure every intake and exhaust port was used and that the fans weren't too cheap so they would actually last more than a few years. That was when LED fans actually meant something to me and had to be taken seriously into consideration when choosing. Since LED's added like 10% performance, so ya know...

Yeah lol. The cheaper and tackier, the better. And those god awful edgy gamer cases with shiny plastics decals and bad quality steel. Good times.

Iirc it was a decent cooler with good reviews. I think I used it for my P4 build. Probably not very efficient due to the small heatsink and lack of heatpipes.. but it was cool though and very unique looking.

Last edited by hinch - on 17 August 2020