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Don't think so. I am just thirsty for anything at this point even rumours until we get the actual GPU announcements probably 1-2 months from now



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Injustice is free on Steam:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/242700/Injustice_Gods_Among_Us_Ultimate_Edition/

Some more Ampere rumours:

https://videocardz.com/newz/rumored-geforce-rtx-3090-and-rtx-3080-specifcations-emerge

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3080-titan-rtx-ampere-gaming-gpu-specs-rumor/

Grain of salt. GDDR6X does not seem to be a commercial product like GDDR5X was by a memory manufacturer.




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Watch the 3090 start at $1800 and the Titan at $3000.



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vivster said:
Watch the 3090 start at $1800 and the Titan at $3000.

Titan possible, the Titan RTX is already $2500 so 20% increase would not surprise me.  For 3090 am predicting $1500 max.  2080TI is $1200 and I don't see them doing a 50% increase.  25% increase is the absolute most I can see happening.

That being said I could also see them keeping prices the same $1200 and $2500 respectfully.  We just have to wait and see.

All this assuming that rumor is true and that 3090 is the replacement for the 2080ti.  It also depends on the performance of big Navi.  If big Navi somehow competes with the 3090 I could see the prices going even lower.



^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.



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JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

I mostly agree with that except I really don't think Consoles a concern for Nvidia (at the 3080/3090 level in lower models maybe).  I don't believe the type of person willing to spend over 1000 dollars on just a video card is the type of person that going to decide they rather game on a console then a PC.



Cyran said:
JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

I mostly agree with that except I really don't think Consoles a concern for Nvidia (at the 3080/3090 level in lower models maybe).  I don't believe the type of person willing to spend over 1000 dollars on just a video card is the type of person that going to decide they rather game on a console then a PC.

You may be right.

The way I see it, the segment of the gaming comunity that buys those high end cards is rather small, you only have to check the Steam hardware survey at Conina's thread and realize that the most popular Nvidia cards are the xx60 ones, and it's compromised mostly be either the one that carry the "PC Master Race" flag or the ones that just love gaming and get every system available to be able to play every game released.

The launch of the new consoles, specially these ones that look like they'll be around the 500 $/€ mark, can mean that the part of the group that will buy them can decide to hold the purchase of a new GPU until a later date, even more so if the price goes up again.



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JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

Don't be so sure about that.

If the 50% efficiency improvement over Navi/RDNA for RDNA2 holds true, then competing with the 3090 shouldn't be out of question. Even with just 64 CU and the clock speeds of the 5700XT the 2080Ti would be beaten by a country mile due to the latter's low clock speeds. If NVidia don't clock the 3080 and 3090 with at least 200 Mhz more than the 2080Ti did, then Big Navi could spell major trouble to NVidia.

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JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

I'm honestly hoping that combo causes them to rethink and lower those prices drastically. The more that are able to afford those cards, the better the outcome, instead of sell low, earn somewhat high. 


Current console prices should definitely give them something to think about, let alone AMD, and then eventually we'll see Intel trading blows in the future too.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

Don't be so sure about that.

If the 50% efficiency improvement over Navi/RDNA for RDNA2 holds true, then competing with the 3090 shouldn't be out of question. Even with just 64 CU and the clock speeds of the 5700XT the 2080Ti would be beaten by a country mile due to the latter's low clock speeds. If NVidia don't clock the 3080 and 3090 with at least 200 Mhz more than the 2080Ti did, then Big Navi could spell major trouble to NVidia.

You mention the 50% improvement from AMD that, and I can't stress this enough, is just their target goal that they may achieve it or not, we won't know until launch. But aren't you forgetting that Ampere will also bring performance improvements? Don't you remember the rumors from earlier this year that talked about a 40% improvement?

AMD won't be the only one to improve here, and during the last gens we've seen how the newer xx70 card performed like the xx80Ti from the previous gen (970 ∼ 780Ti, 1070 ∼ 980Ti and the 2070 failed that because of the focus in Ray Tracing, tho the Super variant matched the performance of the 1080Ti).

If that pattern follows again this gen, and even wif it ends having ith the same shader/core count as the rumor from yesterday, the 3080 will be much faster than the 2080Ti thanks to the improvements of the new architecture and the jump to 7nm, that will allow it to clock much higher.



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