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Bofferbrauer2 said:

JEMC said:
^I doubt Big Navi will be able to compete with the 3090. Trading blows with the 3080? Sure, that should be its natural position or, if everything goes perfect, maybe even sitting between the 3080 and the 3090, forcing Nvidia to rething the pricing of all its high end range or cards.

And I doubt Nvidia will raise the prices again. Not that they don't want to, mind you, but given the current climate with a possible economy crash and the launch of the new consoles, I think it's not the best time to raise them again.

Don't be so sure about that.

If the 50% efficiency improvement over Navi/RDNA for RDNA2 holds true, then competing with the 3090 shouldn't be out of question. Even with just 64 CU and the clock speeds of the 5700XT the 2080Ti would be beaten by a country mile due to the latter's low clock speeds. If NVidia don't clock the 3080 and 3090 with at least 200 Mhz more than the 2080Ti did, then Big Navi could spell major trouble to NVidia.

You mention the 50% improvement from AMD that, and I can't stress this enough, is just their target goal that they may achieve it or not, we won't know until launch. But aren't you forgetting that Ampere will also bring performance improvements? Don't you remember the rumors from earlier this year that talked about a 40% improvement?

AMD won't be the only one to improve here, and during the last gens we've seen how the newer xx70 card performed like the xx80Ti from the previous gen (970 ∼ 780Ti, 1070 ∼ 980Ti and the 2070 failed that because of the focus in Ray Tracing, tho the Super variant matched the performance of the 1080Ti).

If that pattern follows again this gen, and even wif it ends having ith the same shader/core count as the rumor from yesterday, the 3080 will be much faster than the 2080Ti thanks to the improvements of the new architecture and the jump to 7nm, that will allow it to clock much higher.