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vaio on 27 June 2013
Shinobi-san said:
Torillian said:
vaio said:
JayWood2010 said:
vaio said:
JayWood2010 said:


What he said is not bannable.  It is his opinion that may or may not be true with many fans on this website.  NOt the entire fanbase, but many.

negative opinions about sony and ps has and will continue to cause bans.

only a moron would actually think that it means the whole fanbase.


He never said anything about the entire fanbase.  He said he cant stand the double standards.  He says nothing else.


that responce was to your last line- Anyone that thinks he meant the entire fanbase is a moron.

anyway it would be really interesting to know how many reports that post got.


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And I disagree, unless you call out specific people with actual proof it's one of the stupidest things you can say.  Of course he isn't saying it's true for 100% of the fanbase because he could be proven wrong with no effort at all.  But to say it's true of "people" without providing a lick of proof has no meaning and doesn't help the discussion in any way.  It's acceptable(ish) spam that we don't punish officially but I will admonish whenever I see it.  


I reported HappyD's post Torillian....and I 100% agree with what you said. Funny enough i also dont think its bannable. But i think the agenda that Happy D came into the thread with is.

what a suprise a mod covering and lying for the sony fanbase.

I would like to see all the users saying there is no Sony bias defending this move by the mod.



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happydolphin on 27 June 2013
Shinobi-san said:

You get warnings, moderations and banns. Not every offense automatically means a ban. But i felt it needed a warning or something.

You clearly had intent to flame and now you have also derailed the thread. I wanted to avoid that by reporting.

And how did I have intent to flame exactly? I came in with the notion that people will praise Sony no matter what, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that that wasn't the case, yet there still were those that will make this sound positive despite it all, we have some examples here already.

No, I had no intention of flaming and not only is that false, you have absolutely no way to demonstrate it. If I'm flaming now (which I'm not thankfully), it's because I'd have been baited (my posts being called stupid and idiotic and all, you know, the stuff you didn't report).

I didn't intend to derail the thread, but I guess people felt compelled enough to address my gripe, and I'm honored. I also explained why this isn't derailing as paying for xbox live subscriptions is a HUGE topic in our  favored industry.



sales2099 on 27 June 2013
Jay520 said:
JayWood2010 said:
Jay520 said:

My god Jay.  Do a quick search and you can find tons of examples.  Nobody here is saying every fan from sony was hypocritical, but yes there is many.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=156797&page=1 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=156766&page=1

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136846&page=1#


Now can the derailment of this thread stop?  Im shocked a mod hasnt intervened yet and Ive already reported plenty of posts in here to get mods attention. And Jay you do not help by sending paragraphs of text to people saying the same thing over and over again.  You have derailed many threads by contributing this way.  Learn to ignore comments.


You are wrong again, Jaywood.

Sales2099 said most Sony fans are hypocrites. Not some, but MOST. It's not my job to provide proof. That's his job.

Apparantly my job is to be the "Honarary PS Fan Librarian"......because from what I see a PS fan has no history books and libraries . You guys burn all historic records of your past that you don't like and aren't proud of

Is it REALLY that hard to think that a PS gamer pre 2013 would prefer a free PSN to a paid Xbox Live? I mean really?!?!



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Jay520 on 27 June 2013
happydolphin said:
Jay520 said:

1. So what you're saying is, I can say whatever I want as long as it becomes true later on? No, that's not the case. Even if it does become true later, your post does nothing but instigate the problem further.

2. Are you trying to say "impressive" is the same thing as "acceptable"? Wow, I am quite impressed that you've dropped this low.

3. What's your definition of an insult?

1. You're calling me out for saying something with no proof because it's presumptuous, yet my instinct was vindicated by the subsequent posts, so you can call it presumptuous it doesn't change the fact that I was correct. Let's just say that after 4 years of being on this site full time I have a knack at this kind of thing.

2. I think it's a positive comment in a thread where I expected more nays than yays. I was shocked. If you think that's low, get this: "I'm a NINTENDO fan". Imagine how pissed I would be if I was an xbox fan.

3. Use common sense. Saying someone has double-standards is not an insult unless it is completely untrue, which is hardly the case here. It may be generalizing, but it's not inaccurate.

1. So you agree that it was presumptuous?

2. You're not good at this. Saying something positive about PS+ is not an example of double standards. It's only a double standard if someone makes a blatant statement that directly contradicts with their views. 

3. Many would disagree. And looking at many moderations, the mods would disagree too (seeing as many people were moderated for calling people "ignorant" when it was completely accurate). Fair enough, I suppose. 



Shinobi-san on 27 June 2013
vaio said:
Shinobi-san said:


I reported HappyD's post Torillian....and I 100% agree with what you said. Funny enough i also dont think its bannable. But i think the agenda that Happy D came into the thread with is.

what a suprise a mod covering and lying for the sony fanbase.

I would like to see all the users saying there is no Sony bias defending this move by the mod.


Sony fanbase? Wow you guys are taking things to another level.

You are also openly accusing a mod of bias. A mod who has been a member of this site for the longest time and one of the best members of the site.



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nnodley on 27 June 2013
the2real4mafol said:
to fund updates that don't brick people's consoles

LOL,  best comment of the thread.  :-p 

Sense of humor amidst the petty arguing.



Jay520 on 27 June 2013
sales2099 said:

Apparantly my job is to be the "Honarary PS Fan Librarian"......because from what I see a PS fan has no history books and libraries . You guys burn all historic records of your past that you don't like and aren't proud of

Is it REALLY that hard to think that a PS gamer pre 2013 would prefer a free PSN to a paid Xbox Live? I mean really?!?!


Sure, but what does that prove?



the2real4mafol on 27 June 2013

Also, free PSN was a selling point for me on PS3, but they are fine to charge on PS4 thanks to the free games offered on PS+. It just has far superior value for money when compared to Xbox Live Gold, considering that entertainment apps, Free to play games, livestreaming and cross game chat are all available without the need for Playstation plus too.



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happydolphin on 27 June 2013
Jay520 said:

1. So you agree that it was presumptuous?

2. You're not good at this. Saying something positive about PS+ is not an example of double standards. It's only a double standard if someone makes a blatant statement that directly contradicts with their views. 

3. Many would disagree. And looking at many moderations, the mods would disagree too (seeing as many people were moderated for calling people "ignorant" when it was completely accurate). Fair enough, I suppose. 

1. It wasn't, but even if it was I was correct. So it doesn't matter.

2. I explained the statistics thing already. I don't care if you disagree. You won't convince me. I don't have the memory to remember exactly each person. I read "Sony fan", "MS fan", "Nintendo fan" and I make estimates. This far I was pleasantly surprised but the start of the thread did not give me much hope.

3. I don't care what the mods think. I disagreed with you, and I thought you didn't make sense calling his post an insult. Use your brain for a second here. You said my post was presumptuous. Is that supposed to be an insult now?



Talal on 27 June 2013
vaio said:

what a suprise a mod covering and lying for the sony fanbase.

I would like to see all the users saying there is no Sony bias defending this move by the mod.


Don't make accusations. Will you accuse mods of being biased if you get moderated for this post?