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Ajescent on 26 June 2013
Goatseye said:
SnakeEyez said:
 


You can't say that the Xbox One controller is the best, seeing as how it's your opinion and more than likely havent used it as well as the DS4 (which has been getting rave reviews since E3).

OT: It's gonna be a tough battle but it'll work in the US. We have a "you get what you pay for" mentality and those that don't know much about games would think that the Xbox one is more powerful because of the extra $100 dollars. Also, coming from last gen where Xbox had such a huuuge mind share and word of mouth, this holiday alot of people will get it because they think all of their friends that own 360 will move to the One as well.

Xbox 360 controller is considered the best in the gaming industry!

Xbox Juan controller improves all the flaws of its predecessor and adds more to greatness. Hmm, I can't deduce how's that gonna be, with people raving about it at E3. I guess you skipped all the articles talking about it.

http://www.psu.com/a019983/DualShock-4-for-PS4-far-superior-than-PS3-and-Xbox-360-controller-says-Battlefield-4-developer?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Don't fully discount the DS4, my advice, try them first.



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theprof00 on 26 June 2013
Multimedialover said:
Both from a consumer coice point of view and from a gamers pint of view MS are definatly winning. More exclusives at launch, christmas and next year. I still wonder WTF apart from Multiplatform games people will buy for PS4.

After KZ3 was terrible KZ4 and it being a shooter isnt helping Sony at all.

Seriously asking, are you joking? Your post and sig is bordering on parody



Ajescent on 26 June 2013
theprof00 said:
Multimedialover said:
Both from a consumer coice point of view and from a gamers pint of view MS are definatly winning. More exclusives at launch, christmas and next year. I still wonder WTF apart from Multiplatform games people will buy for PS4.

After KZ3 was terrible KZ4 and it being a shooter isnt helping Sony at all.

Seriously asking, are you joking? Your post and sig is bordering on parody

Ignore and move on.



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DakonBlackblade on 26 June 2013
Kresnik said:
Gonna be an interesting one. They're coming off nowhere near the kind of domination that Sony were having with the PS2; and they couldn't really justify the higher price.

But MS have certainly got a better line-up of first year games coming.

Like Sales says, I think it'll come down to marketing. If they get it right, they've got a shot.

 

They dont Sony already confirmed PS4 has 30 exclusive titles in the work 20 of wich will come in the first year of the console and that theyll show a bunch of them on TGS and Gamescom. The whole E3 deal was easy to understand, MS needed to show games or ppl would jump ship, Sony took the oportunity to sucker punch MS with the DRM stuf and MS layed all theyre cards on the table while Sony held a bunch of them. Come Gamescom and TGS and other events Sony will lay these cards on the table and one up MS, at least thats the idea, all thats left to know now is how good are those 20 games coming year 1 for the PS4 if the majority of them are good its a homerun for the PS4, if the majority of them are Drive Clubs and Knacks (wich are probbaly good games but just not massive crowd pleasers) tham itll be just a bunch of nothing realy.

 

Now the launch day exclusives of both consoles are kinda crapy, amongst all of them Id say Dead Rising 3 looks to be the best but its kind of a week franchise and zombies are way overused, imo ppl are gona get either console on launch day not for the exclusives but for multiplataforms and the value associated with the brand, is whats coming on the first year thatll realy matter for the longterm sucess of PS4 and/or Xbone.



Ajescent on 26 June 2013
DakonBlackblade said:
Kresnik said:
Gonna be an interesting one. They're coming off nowhere near the kind of domination that Sony were having with the PS2; and they couldn't really justify the higher price.

But MS have certainly got a better line-up of first year games coming.

Like Sales says, I think it'll come down to marketing. If they get it right, they've got a shot.

 

They dont Sony already confirmed PS4 has 30 exclusive titles in the work 20 of wich will come in the first year of the console and that theyll show a bunch of them on TGS and Gamescom. The whole E3 deal was easy to understand, MS needed to show games or ppl would jump ship, Sony took the oportunity to Sucker punch MS with the DRM stuf and MS laied all the card in the table while Sony held a bunch of them. Come Gamescom and TGS and other events Sony will lay these cards on the table and one up MS, at least thats the idea, all thats left to know now is how good are those 20 games coming year 1 for the PS4 if the majority of them are good its a homerun for the PS4, if the majority of them are Drive Clubs and Knacks (wich are probbaly good games but just not massive crowd pleasers) tham itll be just a bunch of nothing realy.

 

Now the launch day exclusive of both consoles are kinda crapy, amongst all of them Id say Dead Rising 3 looks to be the best but its kind of a week franchise and zombies are way overused, imo ppl are gona get either console on launch day not for the exclusives but for multiplataforms and the value associayed with the brand, is whats coming on the first year thatll realy matter for the longterm sucess of PS4 and/or Xbone.

Whilst Sony say they have 30 games on the way, we don't know what that 30 are. For all we know, they could be 20 Indies.



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Kresnik on 26 June 2013

DakonBlackblade said:

They dont Sony already confirmed PS4 has 30 exclusive titles in the work 20 of wich will come in the first year of the console and that theyll show a bunch of them on TGS and Gamescom. The whole E3 deal was easy to understand, MS needed to show games or ppl would jump ship, Sony took the oportunity to sucker punch MS with the DRM stuf and MS layed all theyre cards on the table while Sony held a bunch of them. Come Gamescom and TGS and other events Sony will lay these cards on the table and one up MS, at least thats the idea, all thats left to know now is how good are those 20 games coming year 1 for the PS4 if the majority of them are good its a homerun for the PS4, if the majority of them are Drive Clubs and Knacks (wich are probbaly good games but just not massive crowd pleasers) tham itll be just a bunch of nothing realy.


I think you missed my point.  I'm not saying XBone has better first year exclusives than PS4; I'm saying it has better first year exclusives than PS3 had.  Unless the majority of these titles get pushed back.



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V-r0cK on 26 June 2013
Goatseye said:
SnakeEyez said:
 


You can't say that the Xbox One controller is the best, seeing as how it's your opinion and more than likely havent used it as well as the DS4 (which has been getting rave reviews since E3).

OT: It's gonna be a tough battle but it'll work in the US. We have a "you get what you pay for" mentality and those that don't know much about games would think that the Xbox one is more powerful because of the extra $100 dollars. Also, coming from last gen where Xbox had such a huuuge mind share and word of mouth, this holiday alot of people will get it because they think all of their friends that own 360 will move to the One as well.

Xbox 360 controller is considered the best in the gaming industry!

Xbox Juan controller improves all the flaws of its predecessor and adds more to greatness. Hmm, I can't deduce how's that gonna be, with people raving about it at E3. I guess you skipped all the articles talking about it.

I'll call BS on that and assume that's just your own opinion and not the industry's.  I don't care for these controller wars, but if you think about it, the Dualshock1-3 is the best since it's the same since PS1 with hundreds of millions people using that controller style.  Why did Sony keep that style if it wasn't working?

I know there are many games that say its too small, but was Sony smart and design the size of the Dualshock to fit average hands.  A while back, my niece couldn't play 360 with her dad cause the controller was too big for her, so she's been playing Playstation with me ever since.  Don't get me started with the original Xbox controller lol.

The best controller in the gaming industry is the one that majory of people use and you can't deny that there's alot more Dualshock controllers out there.



DakonBlackblade on 26 June 2013
Ajescent said:
DakonBlackblade said:
Kresnik said:
Gonna be an interesting one. They're coming off nowhere near the kind of domination that Sony were having with the PS2; and they couldn't really justify the higher price.

But MS have certainly got a better line-up of first year games coming.

Like Sales says, I think it'll come down to marketing. If they get it right, they've got a shot.

 

They dont Sony already confirmed PS4 has 30 exclusive titles in the work 20 of wich will come in the first year of the console and that theyll show a bunch of them on TGS and Gamescom. The whole E3 deal was easy to understand, MS needed to show games or ppl would jump ship, Sony took the oportunity to Sucker punch MS with the DRM stuf and MS laied all the card in the table while Sony held a bunch of them. Come Gamescom and TGS and other events Sony will lay these cards on the table and one up MS, at least thats the idea, all thats left to know now is how good are those 20 games coming year 1 for the PS4 if the majority of them are good its a homerun for the PS4, if the majority of them are Drive Clubs and Knacks (wich are probbaly good games but just not massive crowd pleasers) tham itll be just a bunch of nothing realy.

 

Now the launch day exclusive of both consoles are kinda crapy, amongst all of them Id say Dead Rising 3 looks to be the best but its kind of a week franchise and zombies are way overused, imo ppl are gona get either console on launch day not for the exclusives but for multiplataforms and the value associayed with the brand, is whats coming on the first year thatll realy matter for the longterm sucess of PS4 and/or Xbone.

Whilst Sony say they have 30 games on the way, we don't know what that 30 are. For all we know, they could be 20 Indies.

Thats why I say we need ot wait and see what are those 20 games coming on year 1 for PS3, I dont think theyre counting indies tough, they could however be counting smaler PSN titles from Sony first party studius (somethign like Dead Nation is for PS3), its safe to say that at least 13 of those are AAA titles since thas the number of first party studios Sony owns (14 if you count Quantic Dream) and its been confirmed right after the PS4 reveal that all first party studios were working on PS4 games , and Guerilla and Naughty Dog are multi teams studios now so theres more than 1 game from each of them..

 

@Kresnik - ye I missed your point, I didnt see you said PS3 and not PS4, my bad.



Multimedialover on 26 June 2013
theprof00 said:
Multimedialover said:
Both from a consumer coice point of view and from a gamers pint of view MS are definatly winning. More exclusives at launch, christmas and next year. I still wonder WTF apart from Multiplatform games people will buy for PS4.

After KZ3 was terrible KZ4 and it being a shooter isnt helping Sony at all.

Seriously asking, are you joking? Your post and sig is bordering on parody


No at all.

Whats to joke about. Opt in option for Xbox One owners for old features or used games like last gen.

Far superior launch day games and more of them. Better releases at xmas. Better Spring and sumer releases. 

PS4 isnt looking good at the moment at launch apart from price.



Goatseye on 26 June 2013
V-r0cK said:

I'll call BS on that and assume that's just your own opinion and not the industry's.  I don't care for these controller wars, but if you think about it, the Dualshock1-3 is the best since it's the same since PS1 with hundreds of millions people using that controller style.  Why did Sony keep that style if it wasn't working?

I know there are many games that say its too small, but was Sony smart and design the size of the Dualshock to fit average hands.  A while back, my niece couldn't play 360 with her dad cause the controller was too big for her, so she's been playing Playstation with me ever since.  Don't get me started with the original Xbox controller lol.

The best controller in the gaming industry is the one that majory of people use and you can't deny that there's alot more Dualshock controllers out there.

There's a lot more Toyotas in the world than Ferraris. Just saying according to your analogy.