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Riot Of The Blood said:
@Wolf guy
I didn't play melee so I don't know if it's my type of game or not. I'm mostly comparing it to other fighting games. I've been playing fighting games all my life and I love them a lot. But exactly can you do other than camping? Every approach sucks that's not metaknight. Even marth isn't that great. I'm automaticly at a disadvantage just because I approach. When I play in the brawl league, I'm a completely different fighter. I don't approach or even try to combo. I let metaknight's brokeness win for me.


Brawls meta game is already broken beyond repair almost. The down b with metaknight is a symbolic AT that gives hope to people that want to get past camping and make it far less effective. Banning it just a step backwards into camp zone. This was something that could have changed the brawl was played. I'm glad at least some tourneys will allow it like FAST1.

By making it Meta Knight Vs. Meta Knight only. That is NOT what any competitive fighting game will do.

The generic motto for banning techniques used by all competitive fighting games:

If a character/technique can only be countered by 1 character/technique, being the same character/technique, then that character/technique is to be banned to preserve game balance.

This is going to be used at tournaments, and when people see what people who are practiced at it can do. Its going to be banned. I hoped it wouldn't make it to tournaments but thats starting to seem unlikely.

This game isn't just camping. It just seems to be all that you see.

 



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Riot Of The Blood said:
@Wolf guy
I didn't play melee so I don't know if it's my type of game or not. I'm mostly comparing it to other fighting games. I've been playing fighting games all my life and I love them a lot. But exactly can you do other than camping? Every approach sucks that's not metaknight. Even marth isn't that great. I'm automaticly at a disadvantage just because I approach. When I play in the brawl league, I'm a completely different fighter. I don't approach or even try to combo. I let metaknight's brokeness win for me.


Brawls meta game is already broken beyond repair almost. The down b with metaknight is a symbolic AT that gives hope to people that want to get past camping and make it far less effective. Banning it just a step backwards into camp zone. This was something that could have changed the brawl was played. I'm glad at least some tourneys will allow it like FAST1.

I'm just saying that you need to face the right people. Brawl's metagame can still be saved if the smash community works together at it, but the chances of that are really low. But instead of quitting the game as a whole you can still find enjoyment in fighting the people that will fight on equal terms with you(no camping) becuase they share your ideals.

 



Jski said:
I know i was able to conter it a few times. Rush attk get behind down smash is about how you did it i was able to see it coming so slowly i was starting to conter. what i should do on zss vs that is to grip the sec you start to move i will land it more of the time. I was trying to on that level with falco to do the easter egg thing but i guess its fox only. That why i chose fox the time after. Hehe i could never play this game for any thing other then fun it just seem pontless to go to toruments as is rare they are going to be fun experts from what i can see i mean doing any thing to win makes the game no longer playable.

I totally agree with you there. Every match is a freindly to me <3

Though I still see myself going to a tourny someday. Just to have fun though



how do you wavedash? I heard fair to dair is a true combo in that game now I wanna master melee Marth. I might just switch to that game altogether if the combos are flashy enough.



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@ Riot: to wavedash the moment you press the jump button airdodge diagnolly towards the ground (down + left/right) It takes practice to get the timing right.

I wish there was a way to play you in melee. If you thought my Wolf is good you should've seen me with Mewtwo. Easily 5-7x better than my Wolf :D



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twilit said:

@ Riot: to wavedash the moment you press the jump button airdodge diagnolly towards the ground (down + left/right) It takes practice to get the timing right.

I wish there was a way to play you in melee. If you thought my Wolf is good you should've seen me with Mewtwo. Easily 5-7x better than my Wolf :D

 

Except Mewtwo was the worst character in melee... even Pichu was higher in tier then him X.x



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I did it, but I don't see what's so great about it.

Marth is hard to play in this game. I can't him to do the stuff I seen M2K do. I have a better chance of doing it with Brawl marth.



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how fucking long is Roy's grab? It's better than metaknight. Hax!



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@ Ivo; That maybe(is) true but dumping 4-5 years of hardcore training into one character has to count for something, eh? My hero <3 (Note: I just wanted to throw a vid of Taj in there :P skill > tier)

@ Riot; Wavedashing was a safer, no lag way of dodging in that game(among many other uses). Luigi's wavedash is very fun to do, too. Also almost everything about melee had a high learning curve. You had to be very dedicated to be any good.



in a game like brawl tier means more than skill does. The games engine doesn't allow for a huge difference in skill. You gotta play a good character to be a good player in this game.



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