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wiiforever on 01 February 2008

slim woudn't help that much. Also, it would cost more to produce with a very temporary benifit



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Desroko on 01 February 2008
CDiablo said:
Just make another color, or a hello kitty edition, the Japanese will eat it up.

That's what I was thinking. It has to be a hell o a lot cheaper than redesigning the unit. Wait until 2009 for that.



rocketpig on 01 February 2008
HappySqurriel said:
rocketpig said:
I don't see it happening this year. Power6 architecture is just too damned hot and needs 45nm process at least, not to mention a few GPU shrinks (the RSX is still 90nm).

Even then, the power brick would be pretty large for the unit. Maybe in 2009 but I don't think it will happen in this calendar year.

I thought all processors this generation were based off of the Power 3 architecture?


Power6, actually... Except the Wii. I think that's Power3, isn't it? Same tech as Apple's G3, IIRC.

What I said about the PS3 applies to the 360, too. Maybe even more so because of its tri-core chip.




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kingofwale on 01 February 2008

all they need to do is bundle this with FFXIII with some cool FFXIII arts design on it.

It'd easily sell 500K. :P



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shams on 01 February 2008

Its a bit early - but might make sense for a Xmas release, just like the PSP slim did last year.

Jeez, they just keep cranking out the changes...



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rocketpig on 01 February 2008
Noobie said:
rocketpig said:
I don't see it happening this year. Power6 architecture is just too damned hot and needs 45nm process at least, not to mention a few GPU shrinks (the RSX is still 90nm).

Even then, the power brick would be pretty large for the unit. Maybe in 2009 but I don't think it will happen in this calendar year.

They have already reduced power from 200+ to around 135 W... and they report further 40% reduction going into the 45nm this year... which means the power will come around like 100 to 110W.. and i m sure they can fit it in slim casing very nicely..

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/30/40gb-ps3-features-65nm-chips-lower-power-consumption/

http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/165

and they will be getting 45nm Cell chips this year.. so i see it pretty much happening ... atleast in japan...

ps. and don't forget they will be getting cooler dies for RSX also which can very well push the power envelope below 100W for the entire PS3 system.


While that will definitely help, I still don't know if it's enough. Remember that the PS2 Slim puts out about 45w.

While it's unlikely that the PS3 Slim would ever be as small as the PS2 Slim, that's still a big difference and Sony would probably have to resort to some wind tunnel-esque fans to ensure proper cooling in the unit. Either that or take the Apple route and use the entire unit as a giant heat sink, but that involves metal casing and a fair amount of material costs.




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rocketpig on 01 February 2008
outlawauron said:
@ rocketpig

Do you think Sony could do if they had an external power brick?

It's definitely possible, especially with a 45nm CPU and maybe a 55/65nm GPU.

The big question is what kind of heating solution they would need to keep it reliable and how much it would cost in materials (liquid cooling, using the body as a sink, multiple fans, etc.). 




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Munkeh111 on 01 February 2008

All they need to do to get the PS3 moving in Japan is to get the RPGs out, Last Remnant, White Knight Story, and of course FFXIII. A guess a price drop will come at around the same time as FF XIII, and that will boost sales for a while, but for now, Sony just need to make some profit back on the PS3 to make up for the initial costs



zackblue on 01 February 2008

They need huge RPG's, as well as more advertisement and a lower price to justify consumer purchase.



 

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taomaster06 on 01 February 2008

its going to happen, but its too soon. and being that small, they may take some stuff out



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