By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft - Xbox One: A plain English guide to game ownership

An attempt of

Daniel Dawkins

to really clarify some points,  but to me it's Even more complicated than pc, some of the requirements I even can't remember.
Long gone the days when you just insert the disc in your console and play.
What have you done Microsoft?

 

Microsoft's attempt to clarify Xbox One's game ownership and used game policy has left one thing clear - that there are more questions. We've tried to explain the do's and don'ts of Xbox One's policies below, applying the confirmed policies to a variety of real-world scenarios e.g. What exactly do you need to do to buy a new Xbox One game and play it online with your friends?

ZoomWe also look at potential loopholes, and the key unanswered questions. Microsoft's Xbox One pre-owned policies might present few problems in reality, and their intentions aren't necessarily based on pure greed, but the realities of the AAA game retail market and changing business models. However, it's hard to argue that their confused messaging has been anything short of regrettable, if not disastrous.

All the key details of Microsoft's game ownership policy are outlined below, plus how they relate to a series of real world scenarios.

HOW DO I BUY AND PLAY XBOX ONE GAMES?

1) Buy the game from a traditional retailer - or online via Xbox Live: The official Xbox Wire suggests that every Xbox One release will be available on disc or through digital on the day of release, though this isn't crystal clear.

2) Install the game to your Xbox One hard drive: This is essential. Once the game is installed, you don't need to keep the disc in your drive to play it.

3) Log in and register your game online via Xbox Live: A one off activation is required.

4) Log in online at least once a day: You need to log in once every 24 hours to keep playing your games.

WHAT YOU DON'T NEED TO DO:

1) Keep the disc in your drive once the game is installed: However, you will probably need the physical disc if you want to perform a trade in with a traditional retailer.

2) Stay logged in at all times: Once installed and registered, people can play games on your console whether you're signed in or not. However, you do need to go online once every 24 hours.

3) Be online to watch live TV, Blu-ray or DVD movies: Only games require the once-a-day online connection to work.

WHAT ELSE DO I NEED TO KNOW?

  • You don't own your games. You license them.
  • Discs are purely for installation purposes and are not a proof of ownership
  • You can authorize up to ten people to play these games on a different Xbox One (who can download the game to their hard drive via the cloud) - but they can't play at the same time. Only one user can play your game at any one time, similar to iTunes
  • You need to check in online once a day if playing on your console, but this increases to once an hour if you play your game on a friend's console
  • It won't be possible to loan or rent games at launch. Microsoft will provide updates on when it becomes available.
  • You can give - or gift - a game you own to a friend for free, but you can do this only once. Your friend has to be on your friends list for 30 days for this to work.
  • Publishers choose whether you're allowed to give a friend your game as a gift.
  • Publishers choose whether you're able to trade in your game for cash or credit at a participating retailer
  • Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers or consumers for performing trade-ins i.e. they're effectively leaving it to those parties to sort it out among themselves.
  • Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services as Xbox One develops. They may cease to offer certain products or services for similar reasons.
    Zoom

WHAT MICROSOFT NEEDS TO MAKE CLEAR:

  • If I buy a game through Xbox Live, do I pay with real money (£ or $ etc), or with MS points?
  • Will Xbox One store my card / credit card details permanently, accessed with a password, like on the Apple Store?
  • Will I need to manually input, or choose from a list, the ten people who are allowed to play my games on a different Xbox One console via the cloud?
  • Which traditional retailers are officially approved to perform trade-ins? E.g. GameStop or GAME
  • Will you be able to trade a digital copy for cash or credit? Will this be at the same rates as a disc-based copy?
  • How will Microsoft decide to terminate, or alter the terms, of their products and services? For example, EA recently switched off the Skate 3 online servers, but the game is still playable offline. If Microsoft turn off, say, the Skate 4 online servers, will the game still work offline given the need to check in once every 24 hours, or every hour at a friend's house?
  • How will my Xbox One remind me if I've forgotten to log in online once a day? Will it force me online? Or suggest that I do via a pop up message?
  • How much will Xbox games cost? Will games on physical discs cost the same as buying a game online via Xbox Live?
  • How much will I get - in cash or credit - if I trade in an Xbox One game?
  • How will the pre-owned market depreciate over time? For example, will shops have the power to reduce the cost of a pre-owned game if it is old and relatively unpopular - or will they require approval from the publisher?
  • Will every Xbox One game be available on disc and via digital on Xbox Live on release date? This is implied, but will there be exceptions?

HOW WILL XBOX ONE'S POLICIES WORK IN REAL LIFE?

SCENARIO 1:

I want to buy FIFA 14 on Xbox One from my local GAME store, take it home, and play a few games of online multiplayer every few days.

First, you need to buy the game, at a store, or via Xbox Live (price unknown in both channels). You need to install it. You need to register the game online once by logging in to your Xbox Live account. To play the game every day, you need to make sure you log in to your Xbox One account every day. Naturally, you'll need to be connected to play online.

SCENARIO 2:

I want to take my copy of FIFA 14 down my mate's house, so we can have a few offline head-to-head matches, and maybe play online together in co-op against other people.

You need to install the game on your mate's Xbox One - either using the disc you bought, or by logging into your account on his console and downloading the game to his hard drive. You need to make sure his console connects online at least once an hour, since you're no longer playing on your console, but on a friend's - and the 24-hour rule no longer applies. Otherwise, playing head-to-head games is as it is on Xbox 360. It's the same playing together in co-op, since you have to be online to connect with other players. What you can't do, is install FIFA 14 on his Xbox One, then go back home and try to play your friend online using the same copy. Only one person can be logged in to use the game at any one time, a bit like iTunes.

SCENARIO 3:

I'm bored of FIFA 14, and quite fancy that new Quantum Break game - but only at the right price. Can I trade FIFA 14 in for cash? Or can I use it in part-exchange for Quantum Break and get even more money off?

If EA allow it, you'll be able to trade FIFA 14 at participating retailers (TBC), and receive an unknown cash or part-exchange sum (which may be different values). You should, theoretically, be able to use this sum to reduce the cost of buying Quantum Break. However, this might depend on whether the publisher of Quantum Break has agreed to make it part of the pre-owned scheme. Or it might not. If you bought FIFA 14 from Xbox Live, it isn't clear if your digital version will have the same resale value, or what it means for any subsequent trade in purchase.

SCENARIO 4:

I was chatting with friends, and we were thinking of setting up a 'swap club'. We'll all pool together to buy a few games, install them on each of our Xbox One's, and save some cash. Are there any problems with this plan?

Yes. You can authorise up to ten friends to play your copy of a game that they can download on their Xbox One console with a disc, but only one person can play the game at any one time. You could try to navigate this by setting up a form of 'game club' with a maximum of ten people. You'd buy one different game each and agree to only play them at certain times e.g. Dave plays FIFA 14 on a Tuesday, Mike plays FIFA 14 on a Wednesday, constantly rotating between different titles etc

You can't exploit the ability to 'gift' a game to a friend on a grand scale, since you can only give the game away once. However, you could 'buddy up' with a partner, so you buy a different game each and agree to gift swap later on. However, you'd have to be friends for 30 days first. There might be scope for online 'match dating' clubs, where you express an interest in another title, then someone who owns it agrees to swap for one of your games after a 30 day 'friends' period.

All clear? Er, yes.

We welcome your questions about Xbox One's game ownership below, and would love to hear any potential issues we might've missed.



Around the Network

My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.



Wow. That makes the xbox policies a whole lot clearer to understand. Meh, wasnt going to buy the xbox anyway so nothing has changed.



<a href="https://psnprofiles.com/fauzman"><img src="https://card.psnprofiles.com/2/fauzman.png" border="0"></a>

superchunk said:
My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.


I assume there will be allot of lawsuits with the First-sale doctrine at the helm. :P - And hopefully the consumer wins 'em.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine


The resale and second hand games market isn't really a concern for me though, I buy all my games brand new and keep them forever anyway, but it is a sad precedent as I know several people who rely on the second hand gaming purchases to save a few bucks because games are so stupidly expensive in Australia.




www.youtube.com/@Pemalite

superchunk said:
My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.

Well my plan is to wait about a year or two before buying an Xbox One. No need to jump ship anytime soon. Games are still coming to the 360 and PS3 and I got a backlog.

After about a year or two, there will be numerous games I want to play and I should be able to get them for around $20-$30.

Prices still have to go down to stimulate sales. Games will not remain $60. Too much competition.



Recently Completed
River City: Rival Showdown
for 3DS (3/5) - River City: Tokyo Rumble for 3DS (4/5) - Zelda: BotW for Wii U (5/5) - Zelda: BotW for Switch (5/5) - Zelda: Link's Awakening for Switch (4/5) - Rage 2 for X1X (4/5) - Rage for 360 (3/5) - Streets of Rage 4 for X1/PC (4/5) - Gears 5 for X1X (5/5) - Mortal Kombat 11 for X1X (5/5) - Doom 64 for N64 (emulator) (3/5) - Crackdown 3 for X1S/X1X (4/5) - Infinity Blade III - for iPad 4 (3/5) - Infinity Blade II - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Infinity Blade - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Wolfenstein: The Old Blood for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Origins for X1 (3/5) - Uncharted: Lost Legacy for PS4 (4/5) - EA UFC 3 for X1 (4/5) - Doom for X1 (4/5) - Titanfall 2 for X1 (4/5) - Super Mario 3D World for Wii U (4/5) - South Park: The Stick of Truth for X1 BC (4/5) - Call of Duty: WWII for X1 (4/5) -Wolfenstein II for X1 - (4/5) - Dead or Alive: Dimensions for 3DS (4/5) - Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for X1 (3/5) - Halo Wars 2 for X1/PC (4/5) - Halo Wars: DE for X1 (4/5) - Tekken 7 for X1 (4/5) - Injustice 2 for X1 (4/5) - Yakuza 5 for PS3 (3/5) - Battlefield 1 (Campaign) for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Syndicate for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: MW Remastered for X1 (4/5) - Donkey Kong Country Returns for 3DS (4/5) - Forza Horizon 3 for X1 (5/5)

Around the Network

Does this family thing mean, me, my nephews here and my family in The Netherlands (I live in Canada) can all play the games we buy?

Can the original buyer plus 1 other play it at the same time, or only 1 at the same time?
Is there a cool down period in between 1 user and the next?
Or does family mean 1 household on the same IP address, same city, same country?

How will this work? Only more questions.

Doesn't matter in the end without actual ownership I'm out anyway.



We have to be allowed to gift a game? Seriously?



Mr Puggsly said:
superchunk said:
My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.

Well my plan is to wait about a year or two before buying an Xbox One. No need to jump ship anytime soon. Games are still coming to the 360 and PS3 and I got a backlog.

After about a year or two, there will be numerous games I want to play and I should be able to get them for around $20-$30.

Prices still have to go down to stimulate sales. Games will not remain $60. Too much competition.

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Modern-Warfare-3/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802415608cb

Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® 3

   
663,275
  • Release date: 11/08/2011
  •  $59.99

What did you say about the prices going down after a year?


  • Crysis 2

  • Release date: 3/22/2011
  • $59.99

With this new gen we're in for a ride.



superchunk said:
My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.


well we first need to know whos on the perferd reatil list for all we know ebay and amazon are on there.  



Azerth said:
superchunk said:
My scenario and millions of others is gone.

Post game on eBay or Craigslist to get maximum return and then rebuy new game or other used game.

Instead at best I can save $5 by going through a "authorized dealer" or nothing as the game remains $60 for ever.


well we first need to know whos on the perferd reatil list for all we know ebay and amazon are on there.  

Ebay? I doubt it. Amazon yes because they are a retailer themselves but Ebay is just a platform for moms and pop's stores and other small companies.