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Darc Requiem on 10 June 2013

Sony is back. No DRM. No Online check in. Used games policy remains the same as current gen.



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ctk495 on 10 June 2013

It's official greatness recovered, along with Kingdom hearts 3. Sony domination is on it's way. The sony conference obliterated the Microsoft one.



Zero999 on 11 June 2013
ctk495 said:
It's official greatness recovered, along with Kingdom hearts 3. Sony domination is on it's way. The sony conference obliterated the Microsoft one.

A multiplatform doesn't recover anyone's domination.



small44 on 11 June 2013
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:
Zero999 said:
Mummelmann said:

OP: You assume much, I don't think anyone can say they have this in the bag. However, as things stand right now, Nintendo is unlikely to pose a threat in the 8th gen and Microsofts relevance outside of North America will be paramount to deciding the outcome of the 8th gen. Japan is a lost cause, MS needs Europe.
North America is more than likely to be conquered by the One, regardless of whining about DRM, always online and other aspects of the console people seem to dislike.
I think it will be a really even race between the One and the PS4, if the TV dedication of the Ones hardware and online falls flat, MS has serious issues to deal with, especially in Europe, if it's a great success (cue Borat voice) then Sony has serious issues.

Hard to say. But the PS4 has won nothing, for now there two unknowns in future competition and one known that seems to practically be out of the race already, it's way beyond me why some people imagine that the PS4 and One will somehow help Nintendo get more sales, if anything, they'll be left dealing with the PS360 at their rear and a tough frontal assault from the PS4/One combo, tough times ahead for Nintendo, possibly even worse than they are now.

like the 3ds was out of the race?


First off; the 3DS never had anyone to race against, let alone two generations at once, and secondly; I've written so many posts on the differences of the 3DS and Wii U situation, I simply can't be arsed to do it again.

I could dig up a previous post if you insist though, the comparison is straight up silly and holds no merit.

I also find it somewhat strange that you chose one sentence out of the whole post to get hung up on and left out the rest.

bolded 1: so NOW the comments about 3ds being outsold by ds an psp didn't exist? and vita isn't from 3ds generation? what generation is it then?

let me tell the similarities straight: Both 3ds and wii u were selling bad at a time neither had system selling games. that means their sales from that period are irrelevant to judge the consoles sucess. Also in both cases, haters kept saying when vita/ps4/xone are released they wouldn't stand a chance since they were already struggling without competition, then the 3ds proved all the crap wrong. vita got released and didn't affect 3ds sales wich went skyhigh thanks to (omg who would have guessed) GAMES.

Wii u is getting it's games this second half of 2013 as the expensive competition comes. I bet on wii u on that fight.

Everybody know that Nintendo is strong in handheld domain but not in home console wii is the exception,Nintendo never loose a handheld race and destroy all compititors.

3ds got first party and 3rd party support,wii u had only first party support.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

haxxiy on 11 June 2013
Zero999 said:
ctk495 said:
It's official greatness recovered, along with Kingdom hearts 3. Sony domination is on it's way. The sony conference obliterated the Microsoft one.

A multiplatform doesn't recover anyone's domination.


Oh, you are the guy I should have bet with. But the site was too unstable, you see?

Now do tell me what recovers domination, besides talking stuff you don't have any evidence of whatsoever. Universally panned DRM measures? Selling lesser hardware for more money? Always online requirements? Man, just read those I just wrote. Pretty bad market strategy huh.



 

 

 

 

 

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Zero999 on 11 June 2013
haxxiy said:
Zero999 said:
ctk495 said:
It's official greatness recovered, along with Kingdom hearts 3. Sony domination is on it's way. The sony conference obliterated the Microsoft one.

A multiplatform doesn't recover anyone's domination.


Oh, you are the guy I should have bet with. But the site was too unstable, you see?

Now do tell me what recovers domination, besides talking stuff you don't have any evidence of whatsoever. Universally panned DRM measures? Selling lesser hardware for more money? Always online requirements? Man, just read those I just wrote. Pretty bad market strategy huh.

who is saying anything about that stuff? only you



ctk495 on 11 June 2013
Zero999 said:
haxxiy said:
Zero999 said:
ctk495 said:
It's official greatness recovered, along with Kingdom hearts 3. Sony domination is on it's way. The sony conference obliterated the Microsoft one.

A multiplatform doesn't recover anyone's domination.


Oh, you are the guy I should have bet with. But the site was too unstable, you see?

Now do tell me what recovers domination, besides talking stuff you don't have any evidence of whatsoever. Universally panned DRM measures? Selling lesser hardware for more money? Always online requirements? Man, just read those I just wrote. Pretty bad market strategy huh.

who is saying anything about that stuff? only you



Why do you guys keep saying Kingdom hearts 3 is not an exclusive? I did not see it on MS nor Nintendo's presentation that big of an announcement should have appear already.



TruckOSaurus on 11 June 2013
ctk495 said:
Zero999 said:

who is saying anything about that stuff? only you



Why do you guys keep saying Kingdom hearts 3 is not an exclusive? I did not see it on MS nor Nintendo's presentation that big of an announcement should have appear already.

But if it was really an exclusive Sony would have made sure everyone knew about it. The fact it didn't happen tells me it's not an exclusive.



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ctk495 on 11 June 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
ctk495 said:
Zero999 said:

who is saying anything about that stuff? only you



Why do you guys keep saying Kingdom hearts 3 is not an exclusive? I did not see it on MS nor Nintendo's presentation that big of an announcement should have appear already.

But if it was really an exclusive Sony would have made sure everyone knew about it. The fact it didn't happen tells me it's not an exclusive.

We'll have to wait until the end of E3. Maybe they can get an interview with Nomura to confirm the consoles. I see it more likely for the XB1 like the previous FF did.



Zero999 on 11 June 2013
TruckOSaurus said:
ctk495 said:
Zero999 said:

who is saying anything about that stuff? only you



Why do you guys keep saying Kingdom hearts 3 is not an exclusive? I did not see it on MS nor Nintendo's presentation that big of an announcement should have appear already.

But if it was really an exclusive Sony would have made sure everyone knew about it. The fact it didn't happen tells me it's not an exclusive.

Exactly, the guy said clearly: FF 15 and KH3 are COMING to ps4. and then he said FF 14 would be exclusive. Does anyone think that if those two were exclusive they wouldn't mention? we are looking at two multiplatforms here and at least kingdom hearts has a big chance of being on wii u.