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curl-6 on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

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Has Retro been able to create 4 AAA IPs in 3 gens?

Well, Nintendo hasn't asked them too.

Nintendo? Asking any of their devs to make new IPs? Lol

Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Music/Party, Xenoblade Chronicles, Steel Diver, Disaster Day of Crisis, Rhythm Heaven, Brain Age, Pushmo... Nintendo don't invest as much as they should in new IPs, but they still make some.

Just goes on to show the difference in strength of the first party studios. Sony's outclasses the other two's by a mile.

Retro and Tokyo EAD are as good as any studio Sony has, and Monolith is better than most of them too.

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Play4Fun on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

Screamapillar said:

HikenNoAce said:
Has Retro been able to create 4 AAA IPs in 3 gens?

Well, Nintendo hasn't asked them too.

Nintendo? Asking any of their devs to make new IPs? Lol

Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Music/Party, Xenoblade Chronicles, Steel Diver, Disaster Day of Crisis, Rhythm Heaven, Brain Age, Pushmo... Nintendo don't invest as much as they should in new IPs, but they still make some.

Just goes on to show the difference in strength of the first party studios. Sony's outclasses the other two's by a mile.

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

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HikenNoAce on 05 June 2013

Play4Fun said:

HikenNoAce said:

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

Screamapillar said:

HikenNoAce said:
Has Retro been able to create 4 AAA IPs in 3 gens?

Well, Nintendo hasn't asked them too.

Nintendo? Asking any of their devs to make new IPs? Lol

Wii Sports/Play/Fit/Music/Party, Xenoblade Chronicles, Steel Diver, Disaster Day of Crisis, Rhythm Heaven, Brain Age, Pushmo... Nintendo don't invest as much as they should in new IPs, but they still make some.

Just goes on to show the difference in strength of the first party studios. Sony's outclasses the other two's by a mile.

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

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Play4Fun on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

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Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

How many of their big first party games have Nintendo released on WiiU besides NSMBU? Yeah, I thought so...

Also look at top software sales of N64 and GC then tell me where those consoles would have ended up without Nintendo's first party IPs behind them.

So yeah, nothing you said went against what I said.

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curl-6 on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

Play4Fun said:

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

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HikenNoAce on 05 June 2013

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

Play4Fun said:

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

Wrong. That was thanks to the handhelds. Nintendo has always had a way of enticing kids to get their parents to buy them a Nintendo handheld.

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curl-6 on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

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Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

Wrong. That was thanks to the handhelds. Nintendo has always had a way of enticing kids to get their parents to buy them a Nintendo handheld.

Not wrong. Gamecube and N64 were self-sustaining, because people bought them to play Nintendo's 1st party franchises.

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HikenNoAce on 05 June 2013

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

curl-6 said:

Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

Wrong. That was thanks to the handhelds. Nintendo has always had a way of enticing kids to get their parents to buy them a Nintendo handheld.

Not wrong. Gamecube and N64 were self-sustaining, because people bought them to play Nintendo's 1st party franchises.

Yeah.... right. Also, notice how the GC didn't have a DVD-player which was expensive when the previous gen started? Ah, Nintendo, always trying to sell each piece of hardware at a profit at the expense of a wanted feature.

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Screamapillar on 05 June 2013

HikenNoAce said:

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

Play4Fun said:

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

Wrong. That was thanks to the handhelds. Nintendo has always had a way of enticing kids to get their parents to buy them a Nintendo handheld.

GameCube and N64 were both profitable systems. N64 especially.

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HikenNoAce on 05 June 2013

Screamapillar said:

HikenNoAce said:

curl-6 said:

HikenNoAce said:

Play4Fun said:

Nintendo is the only one of the three that could carry their console by themselves.

If Sony were to try to survive without 3rd parties like Nintendo they'd be screwed.

That's not really working for the WiiU at the moment.. And it didn't work for the GameCube or N64.

Actually, it did work for the Gamecube and the N64. Both survived their generation and made money with little third party support.

Wrong. That was thanks to the handhelds. Nintendo has always had a way of enticing kids to get their parents to buy them a Nintendo handheld.

GameCube and N64 were both profitable systems. N64 especially.

I'm sure that selling cheap hardware for a profit helped.

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