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Slimebeast said:
Sony has fostered millions of loyal customers around the world with their beloved Playstation brand.

When these people decide to purchase big screen TVs, video cameras and smartphones they will choose products from Sony.

This means Sony has an advantage over its competitors in the electronics business and there will be profitable times ahead for the company.

I'm sorry, but Sony ain't no Apple.



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kowenicki said:
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kowenicki said:


It's been 9 years...

That's 9 years of bad management as well, hopefully Kaz is better and knows what he's doing... I say 5 more years, then sell the shit out of the TV department if it's still not making money.


Dd you just say "Sell" a business that will have had 14 years of straight losses by that point.  They can't afford another 5 years of TV losses, it has 18 months to show signs of a profit before they ditch it.  They have already said as much. 

They've said that? Well then, they got 18 months to turn things around or sell/scrap it. Whatever they see fit.



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disolitude said:

This is starting to become clearer and clearer, but this forum will deny it and probably blast your for even posting this so because well...you know.

Just look at the reviews their 2013 top end 1080p TVs are getting (KDL-55W900A). They can not compete on price or features... The can't compete on the cheap end either.

So?

there is more to the market than just the market Leader's! you can carve out a good section of the market even if you are not the market leader! you can always build up from there once you fix the parts that are killing your bottom line or is of no use to fix, if anything Sony will sell off, the TV production to another company, yes that means there will be reductions in manpower, but that also means they are not going to go public with parts of the company they feel do not need to go public with.

Yes It has become very clear, the part's of Sony that some investor's want to get @ are not Public, and Sony is not going to budge! they see these Hedge funds as "vultures" and they would rather swallow a poison Pill than to let That part of the COMPANY GO PUBLIC!

THE DIRECTION IS ALSO CLEAR THAT SONY WILL TRY, every thing they can to avoid selling off large chunks of the company unless they have to in order; so as to keep those 160,000+ employed over @ Sony ..employed! if anything Kaz has already told Investor's over the past year and a half where the majority of cuts are going. Dan Lobe and his hedge fund can ask for such a Request for a Private part of the Company to go public, but even with his very robust 5% of the company he would have to convince quite a number of japanese investors to follow suit. in the past 40 year's no other Hostile pressure from a west Hedge fund has had any luck to do such to a japanese ran corp., and i doubt very much he will have any clear chance to do so anyway.

Sony is not going to let this part be spun off and let the other part die on the vine, which its doing anyway. Sony would rather I think take the loss sell off non profit bearing part's of the company and work from those parts that are generating profit, and Software and the games console part is just that generating Profit!



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ps:

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kowenicki said:
Slimebeast said:
Sony has fostered millions of loyal customers around the world with their beloved Playstation brand.

When these people decide to purchase big screen TVs, video cameras and smartphones they will choose products from Sony.

This means Sony has an advantage over its competitors in the electronics business and there will be profitable times ahead for the company.


where have these people been for the last 5 years?

I bought a PS3, it didn't magically endear me to buy any other products of theirs as there are always better options at every price point.  That includes TV, phones and laptops.  The internet has ended the rule of the big brands, people can now get the information they need before they buy and don't fall back to the old method of buying a "quality" brand name.  Sony have just never realized this isn't the case when you look at their products.  



I know they reduced the losses from they're TV division but I don't think its worth keeping anymore. Just one solid quarter of losses from that division eats up all the profit from the others in a year. Its like a cancer in the company.



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tiffac said:
I know they reduced the losses from they're TV division but I don't think its worth keeping anymore. Just one solid quarter of losses from that division eats up all the profit from the others in a year. Its like a cancer in the company.

exactly


Kaz stated he is cutting production by over all for a 3 year pd. from 2011 to the end of the next fiscal year of 2014 Sony was cutting all TV production by upto 60% on the number of TV production Models, that means the Man power will also be lowered and op/expenses!

Kaz said as much when he took over in APR of last year.. Investor's such as Dan Lobe and his Hedge fund's are Corporate Raider's just like

carl icahn who is also another corporate raider. they are doing this now to try to get at the part's of Sony that are not for sale! They are trying now because soon they will not really have another chance at this, other than cashing out, they will have purchased Billion's of $$$ of Stocks that they will have to wait quite a while, to get ROI and they do not want to wait. they do not care about the People that work or are employed, they just want to get a short term sales, why do you think his hedge fund purchased such large amounts of stock so quickly at such a lower market cap price, if Dan Lobe would get his way, the start of the offer was 20% of the entertainment part of Sony that was just the initial offering that they wanted from Sony to go public, once you let it go public, it than becomes and Open Buyout, and by default a public buyout by vote privilege! they would in effect be able to take the entertainment arm of the company from Sony away from Sony!

that is exactly why Kaz has said its not going public with the entertainment part of the company.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

I suggest they just hush first of all those brand new tvs with magnetic liquid speakers r awesome n makes dem tvs loo kway better than any other!