Andrespetmonkey said:
happydolphin said:
1. It's not fair because the 1 will easily get games and TV will not stop that from happening.
It's not fair because for years the PS brand had multimedia capabilities that the Nintendo brand didn't have, yet the PS community was all over it. Sometimes it makes me very sad to see that community as the most vocal because oftentimes it is painfully biased.
Did Sony ever spend literally half of a PS event talking about the CD player in the PS1? Or the DVD player in the PS2? PS3 and it's "it only does everything" campaign was pretty big, but did it ever delay Sony showing a bunch of games because they had some alternative ways to watch tv on the PS3?
Microsoft made it seem as if X1 is more like Apple TV than a gaming console, contrasted with Sony making PS4 seem like it was built specifically for core gamers. The difference is "It plays games, and also tv and stuff" and "It plays tv and stuff, and also games". This is completely fair to criticise from the gamer's perspective. Can people go overboard? Absolutely. Are there illegetimate criticism's also? Sure.
2. I think that if we're going to ask certain users to relax, yes I certainly think it means that that should be across the board. If a thread is put in place to basically allow free game for xbox bashing, if a pro-xbox user has something mildly controversial to say about the PS I think it's fair to give him right of way.
I don't see it that way. Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture like you are, and maybe being in the bigger camp makes me less empathetic; I just see someone make a silly post and so I respond to it.
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I guess it's hard for me to forget the PS/PS2 days, where Nintendo fans were calling Sony out for steering the gaming industry away from gaming and having PS fans promote the CD/DVD playability as Sony just evolving the market. And still today it's being said (I was in a chat with S.T.A.G.E. sometime last year about it). And then today Sony fans doing it right back the other way. Yeah, that is the vendetta I must let go and see today's PS fans as a new breed altogether. I'll just tell you it's friggin' hard. And the criticism they offer is not only about the conference, but they're making it sound as if the multimedia functions of the One distract from gaming, when the PS has been doing that for generations.
"Made it seem" is the key expression, because anyone with half a brain (not saying you, but those criticising) should know that it won't be an apple TV and that it will be an all-in-one box that has an important focus on dedicated gaming content (not apps, not an apple TV). As long as the games are there, what do gamers care what the focus is? If the focus on the mainstream allows MS to push more consoles and as such make more money, and if the games are there, what's it to them?
No, to me it is not properly thought out criticism to be completely honest. More than likely it is based on hate and bias, in general (not you).
