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kitler53 on 22 May 2013

we won't know until it goes on sale but imo yes..

the entertainment specific features were not significant enough to capture the excitement of non-gamers, imo. i mean, being able to talk to your xbox to switch between games/music/tv instead of using the "source" button on my tv remote seems like a really big, complicated solution to a very minor problem. i just feel that all those voice commands and gestures is in a lot of ways more complicated than the "channel-up" button. the xbox guide at a glance looked the same as on cable anyways.

..and the details of the DRM on general perception that MS is focused on entertainment over games isn't playing out well with gamers.

..it just feels a bit like the wiiU. not core enough to be core. not casual enough to be casual. they went for everything and didn't find a great middle ground.

but whatever, money talks so let's see what happens this holiday.



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Soundwave on 22 May 2013
kitler53 said:
we won't know until it goes on sale but imo yes..

the entertainment specific features were not significant enough to capture the excitement of non-gamers, imo. i mean, being able to talk to your xbox to switch between games/music/tv instead of using the "source" button on my tv remote seems like a really big, complicated solution to a very minor problem. i just feel that all those voice commands and gestures is in a lot of ways more complicated than the "channel-up" button. the xbox guide at a glance looked the same as on cable anyways.

..and the details of the DRM on general perception that MS is focused on entertainment over games isn't playing out well with gamers.

..it just feels a bit like the wiiU. not core enough to be core. not casual enough to be casual. they went for everything and didn't find a great middle ground.

but whatever, money talks so let's see what happens this holiday.

The difference with MS and Nintendo though is MS still made a system that can keep relative par with the PS4 and will get a ton of third party support and probably will still be entrenched with a lot of gamers as the shooter/sports console of choice.

MS is not crazy enough to just hand that demographic over.



kitler53 on 22 May 2013
Soundwave said:
kitler53 said:
we won't know until it goes on sale but imo yes..

the entertainment specific features were not significant enough to capture the excitement of non-gamers, imo. i mean, being able to talk to your xbox to switch between games/music/tv instead of using the "source" button on my tv remote seems like a really big, complicated solution to a very minor problem. i just feel that all those voice commands and gestures is in a lot of ways more complicated than the "channel-up" button. the xbox guide at a glance looked the same as on cable anyways.

..and the details of the DRM on general perception that MS is focused on entertainment over games isn't playing out well with gamers.

..it just feels a bit like the wiiU. not core enough to be core. not casual enough to be casual. they went for everything and didn't find a great middle ground.

but whatever, money talks so let's see what happens this holiday.

The difference with MS and Nintendo though is MS still made a system that can keep relative par with the PS4 and will get a ton of third party support and probably will still be entrenched with a lot of gamers as the shooter/sports console of choice.

MS is not crazy enough to just hand that demographic over.


yeah, that's a good point.  i'd even scratch the term "on par" because for all practical purposes they are identical.   i think it's mostly about perception.  the current perception is that MS third party exclusive will eventually go multiplat and that MS first party is sparce compared to the competition.  I don't think they did anything to change that perception by talking about TV for ~1/2 of their reveal.