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VGKing on 21 May 2013
think-man said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


You're comparing GDDR to DDR....

GDDR is for the graphics card and DDR is for the RAM

These consoles are using UNIFIED memory. They don't have split pools of system and gpu ram like current-gen consoles.
PS4 = 8GB Unified GDDR5 Memory.
Xbox One = 8GB Unified DDR3 Memory w/ 32MB ESRAM.

Yes, GDDR is for graphics, which is why Sony picked it for hte PS4. DDR is for general purpose computing.

Jumpin said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


DDR3 is as high as it gets for RAM.

GDDR5 is GPU ram based on DDR3.

You  have no idea what you're talking about. These are consoles, not PCs.



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slowmo on 21 May 2013
thismeintiel said:
slowmo said:
If Sony have low balled on the OS footprint they are going to be a long way behind the 360 on software features as this gen progresses. It'll be like cross game chat this gen but a lot worse. They better hope more available RAM sells more games that the complete experience Microsoft are marketing.

1GB is more than enough for an OS.  Especially considering what MS pulled off with the 360 with only 512MB of RAM for the OS AND games.  Or what Sony pulled off with 256MB of system RAM for the OS AND partially used by games.  So yea, 1GB will be fine.

Actually given Microsoft are arguably the biggest software company in the world I think they might have more of a clue than Sony on this point but time will prove me right if Sony are sticking at 1 GB IMO.



fillet on 21 May 2013
VGKing said:
think-man said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


You're comparing GDDR to DDR....

GDDR is for the graphics card and DDR is for the RAM

These consoles are using UNIFIED memory. They don't have split pools of system and gpu ram like current-gen consoles.
PS4 = 8GB Unified GDDR5 Memory.
Xbox One = 8GB Unified DDR3 Memory w/ 32MB ESRAM.

Yes, GDDR is for graphics, which is why Sony picked it for hte PS4. DDR is for general purpose computing.

Jumpin said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


DDR3 is as high as it gets for RAM.

GDDR5 is GPU ram based on DDR3.

You  have no idea what you're talking about. These are consoles, not PCs.

Xbox One will not be using DDR3 RAM for the GPU.

Logic dictates it would be too much of a bottleneck to touch such low bandwidth rubbish.



Scoobes on 21 May 2013

Is this due to Microsoft putting the Windows 8 kernel into the Xbox One? That's quite a large OS footprint even with all the multimedia features they've announced.




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VGKing on 21 May 2013
slowmo said:
thismeintiel said:
slowmo said:
If Sony have low balled on the OS footprint they are going to be a long way behind the 360 on software features as this gen progresses. It'll be like cross game chat this gen but a lot worse. They better hope more available RAM sells more games that the complete experience Microsoft are marketing.

1GB is more than enough for an OS.  Especially considering what MS pulled off with the 360 with only 512MB of RAM for the OS AND games.  Or what Sony pulled off with 256MB of system RAM for the OS AND partially used by games.  So yea, 1GB will be fine.

Actually given Microsoft are arguably the biggest software company in the world I think they might have more of a clue than Sony on this point but time will prove me right if Sony are sticking at 1 GB IMO.

They are pushing the entertainment and services. To do this, they decided to use 3 Operating Systems.(Windows, Xbox and one that connectst them both) This is  a remarkable achievement but it takes a huge toll on system resources. 3GB for OS is a huge negative here considering how much will be available for the PS4. The good thing is that they can reduce the OS footprint over time. 



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VGKing on 21 May 2013
fillet said:
VGKing said:
think-man said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


You're comparing GDDR to DDR....

GDDR is for the graphics card and DDR is for the RAM

These consoles are using UNIFIED memory. They don't have split pools of system and gpu ram like current-gen consoles.
PS4 = 8GB Unified GDDR5 Memory.
Xbox One = 8GB Unified DDR3 Memory w/ 32MB ESRAM.

Yes, GDDR is for graphics, which is why Sony picked it for hte PS4. DDR is for general purpose computing.

Jumpin said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


DDR3 is as high as it gets for RAM.

GDDR5 is GPU ram based on DDR3.

You  have no idea what you're talking about. These are consoles, not PCs.

Xbox One will not be using DDR3 RAM for the GPU.

Logic dictates it would be too much of a bottleneck to touch such low bandwidth rubbish.

The GPU and CPU will share the 8GB DRR3 & 32 MB ESRAM. The console has unified system memory.



Tom3k on 21 May 2013
fillet said:
VGKing said:
think-man said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


You're comparing GDDR to DDR....

GDDR is for the graphics card and DDR is for the RAM

These consoles are using UNIFIED memory. They don't have split pools of system and gpu ram like current-gen consoles.
PS4 = 8GB Unified GDDR5 Memory.
Xbox One = 8GB Unified DDR3 Memory w/ 32MB ESRAM.

Yes, GDDR is for graphics, which is why Sony picked it for hte PS4. DDR is for general purpose computing.

Jumpin said:
VGKing said:
We've known this for months too :D

The RAM difference is pretty huge between PS4 and Xbox One.

PS4 = 7GB Fast GDDR5 RAM for games.
Xbox One = 5GB Slow DDR3 RAM for games.

It's a big difference and it will affect the games. Xbox One will be the limiting factor for next-gen 3rd party titles. It's obvious that the entertainment focus of Microsoft had a huge effect on the design of the console. Both on the specs and the apperance of the console itself. Seriously, it looks like a DVR or set-top box.


DDR3 is as high as it gets for RAM.

GDDR5 is GPU ram based on DDR3.

You  have no idea what you're talking about. These are consoles, not PCs.

Xbox One will not be using DDR3 RAM for the GPU.

Logic dictates it would be too much of a bottleneck to touch such low bandwidth rubbish.

That's why they've combined it with 32MB of ESRAM. 



NYCrysis on 21 May 2013

People the xbox 360 uses a unified 512 gddr3 memory for the whole system so why the hell do people try to claim its not possible for the ps4 to use gddr5 for its os?



S.T.A.G.E. on 21 May 2013
slowmo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
slowmo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

I think most multi-plat games will then use 5GB by default as devs aren't going to want the headache of mismatched ports.

Exactly. That's the big bummer. That multiplats will be developed for the lowest common denominator. Makes me so sad.


At the end of the gen Sony will have superior multiplats because those games are going to be eating up ram at the end of the gen.


You mean like happened in the case of the 360 at the end of the gen due to its superior memory architecture last gen...

Please stop guessing.  All the bandwidth and memory in the world counts for nothing if the rest of your system can't keep it fully utilized, we will not know that until final hardware revisions are in developers hands.  


Actually yes. There were certain things wrong with the PS3 that made their port inferior. 


Which were present at the start more rather than the end.  


No arguing with that. One of the major reasons I didnt have a PS3 in the beginning. Microsoft had the most compelling argument in the beginning. This gen its the opposite it seems.



thismeintiel on 21 May 2013
slowmo said:
thismeintiel said:
slowmo said:
If Sony have low balled on the OS footprint they are going to be a long way behind the 360 on software features as this gen progresses. It'll be like cross game chat this gen but a lot worse. They better hope more available RAM sells more games that the complete experience Microsoft are marketing.

1GB is more than enough for an OS.  Especially considering what MS pulled off with the 360 with only 512MB of RAM for the OS AND games.  Or what Sony pulled off with 256MB of system RAM for the OS AND partially used by games.  So yea, 1GB will be fine.

Actually given Microsoft are arguably the biggest software company in the world I think they might have more of a clue than Sony on this point but time will prove me right if Sony are sticking at 1 GB IMO.

And the Xbox One will have esentially 3 OSs running, while the PS4 will have one.