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the2real4mafol on 22 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
ultima said:

What you're saying is beyond stupid. What are you going to assert next? Maybe black people and hispanics commit the majority of crimes in some other stats, hence they shouldn't reproduce too? That you're scared some black or hispanic dude might attack you at night?

A bit too much exposure to Fox "news"?

Nah, maybe we can derail another thread with that topic.

You wacky liberals... and your wacky ignoring of statistics.

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence



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Mr Puggsly on 22 May 2013
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...



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the2real4mafol on 22 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...

I just love being annoying if you can't tell



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AnthonyW86 on 22 May 2013

He cannot be charged with murder since that would mean all abortion is murder. Anyway i'm just happy that in my country you have the option to simply refuse a child as your own and not register as the father at birth.



Jay520 on 22 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...



Actually there is no evidence for Pugs. In fact,.the evidence says the complete opposite.

My proof is out in the world.

A quick internet search should take a you a little over the time its going to take you to submit another reply, so you have time, since I imagine you'll be making several more posts in this thread.

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Mr Puggsly on 22 May 2013
Jay520 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...


Actually there is no evidence for Pugs. In fact,.the evidence says the complete opposite.

My proof is out in the world.

A quick internet search should take a you a little over the time its going to take you to submit another reply, so you have time, since I imagine you'll be making several more posts in this thread.

No, it takes less time to respond.

Now run along people.



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sc94597 on 22 May 2013
ultima said:
sc94597 said:
ultima said:
sc94597 said:
ultima said:
Mr Puggsly said:
ultima said:

Seriously dude? It was obviously a metaphor. It should've been clear, because, if nothing else, I asserted that it can't be called killing, then immediately afterwards talked about a guy comitting murder.

Edit: your position seems very inconsistent. You claim in another post that you're fine with the woman having the final say in whether the fetus gets an eventual birth or not. Why don't you want to charger her with murder if a fetus really is a human?

Why not charge her with murder? Because I feel taking away abortion would lead to other problems. Like women looking for more drastic methods to kill their unborn child.

So if people want to have abortions, whatever. I don't want to stop them. But don't tell me a fetus isn't a person so you can sleep better at night.

So? If the fetus is a child, then it's murder, regardless of the method used to abort. So, if the fetus is a child, then women should be charged with murder for abortion too.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying a fetus is not a person to get better shut-eye at night; trust me, I have no trouble falling asleep in the worst of times. I truly believe that a fetus is not a person. How do you justify calling a fetus a person? A fetus is a potential person. So is a sperm cell, so is an egg. Is it then also murder for men to masturbate, or for women to go through a menstrual cycle without conceiving?

Sperm cells will not develop into a person on their own, neither will eggs. Once conception occurs development begins. Consequently, a unique diploid organism is produced, and humans only come in diploid form. That's the difference between an egg or sperm cell and a fetus.

I'll quote KungKras for you, whose response is perfectly in line with my own position:

Who cares if it has the same genome as a human, it doesn have a brain, so it does not experience anything. It's not developed into a person yet, so it shouldn't get treated as a person.

Again, a fetus is a potential human being. Like a seed is a potential tree.

Many people define humanity by a unique organism which falls within the human species, which a fetus does, as opposed to one's brain-capacity. Likewise, we should promote post-birth infanticide because a baby is not a "fully-developed" human if we accept the definiton that a fully developed brain qualifies somebody as human. 

P.S The brain of a fetus develops within 4-5 weeks of conception. 

The difference is that an infant does have a brain and is in fact sentient.

I'm against late-term abortion myself. But abortion early on is not immoral. It's certainly not murder.

Would you say cats and dogs are sentient then? My point in asking that is that we hold humans to a different standard because they're human. A full-grown cat is more "sentient" than a new-born human baby, but killing one is far more excusable than killing the other, because one has far less of a potential than the other. Consequently, the natural right to life is more than just in regards to brain activity and sentience. 



Jay520 on 22 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
Jay520 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...


Actually there is no evidence for Pugs. In fact,.the evidence says the complete opposite.

My proof is out in the world.

A quick internet search should take a you a little over the time its going to take you to submit another reply, so you have time, since I imagine you'll be making several more posts in this thread.

No, it takes less time to respond.

Now run along people.



Attempting to move past the subject, are we? Typical response from someone who has realized he been disproven. You probably already searched for some statistics, but couldn't find any lol..

Please don't discredit yourself again by making yet another post. You've already wasted precious minutes and seconds of your time making quite a few posts in this thread; you don't want to waste another 20 seconds forming a reply, as apparently you are much too busy.

Mr Puggsly on 22 May 2013
Jay520 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Jay520 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:

what statistics? you keep on saying about them but they never materialise. How convienant? you can claim anything without evidence

Do your own damn research. I got things to do...


Actually there is no evidence for Pugs. In fact,.the evidence says the complete opposite.

My proof is out in the world.

A quick internet search should take a you a little over the time its going to take you to submit another reply, so you have time, since I imagine you'll be making several more posts in this thread.

No, it takes less time to respond.

Now run along people.


Attempting to move past the subject, are we? Typical response from someone who has realized he been disproven. You probably already searched for some statistics, but couldn't find any lol..

Please don't discredit yourself again by making yet another post. You've already wasted precious minutes and seconds of your time making quite a few posts in this thread; you don't want to waste another 20 seconds forming a reply, as apparently you are much too busy.

No, I've researched it in the past and angered liberals with my findings.

Do your own research.



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Jay520 on 22 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:

No, I've researched it in the past and angered liberals with my findings.

Do your own research.


No, that's stupid. It's not my research. You're the one making the claim. Why would I look up research to support a claim you made.

That's not how this works. You can't just post unsupported assertions and tell other people to look it up. Any questionable *facts* that anyone mentions should be considered baseless conjecture until that person proves them to be true.

BTW, this is the third post that's wasted your time when apparently you've had "stuff to do".