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When I started University I kind of gave up on console gaming for a while. My money was better spent on liquer and whores. But I did have a good computer so I picked up Tomb Raider. It was awesome. Then I played it on my residence neighbor's Playstation. I was blown away by how much better it was. Not so much the game itself, but just so much easier and smoother and better to play. PC's have come a long way since then, but I still much prefer console gaming. Any power benifits on my PC are offset by the ease of play, the control options, the big TV and surround sound and the comfort of my couch that I enjoy on a console. I mostly only PC game for things such as RTS or MMO's.



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ishiki said:

Everyone bashes everyone on youtube.

When the consoles are released they're always in the mid-high range of PC GPU's. Last Gen the 360 and the PS3 was around a 7800 GTX when 8800 GTX is out. This gen it's around a 7870 when unnanounced GPU is out. Consoles will be more optimized than equivalent PC builds, but optimization will only compete with brute for for so long.

I'm not sure why some console gamers or PC gamers are spazzing out like it's any different than before. 
What you say is true though.


So why Crysis 3 runs on PS3/X360 and not on 8800 GTX?



Xenobot said:
ishiki said:

Everyone bashes everyone on youtube.

When the consoles are released they're always in the mid-high range of PC GPU's. Last Gen the 360 and the PS3 was around a 7800 GTX when 8800 GTX is out. This gen it's around a 7870 when unnanounced GPU is out. Consoles will be more optimized than equivalent PC builds, but optimization will only compete with brute for for so long.

I'm not sure why some console gamers or PC gamers are spazzing out like it's any different than before. 
What you say is true though.


So why Crysis 3 runs on PS3/X360 and not on 8800 GTX?

it can, but you have to hack it by disabling DX11 features like ambient occlusion or tesselation (which consoles don't have so it's not like the engine requires this to always be there), and replacing the DX11 libraries with DX10 libraries. Crytek only included the DX11 libraries for marketing or some nonsensical reason.

http://crysis3dx10hack.blogspot.com/

This is definetly a benefit of a console though because you don't have devs pulling this screwy stuff, to lock out harderware.



Who cares. It's a video game. It's nothing personal. People can fight over whether PC or consoles are better. In the end, if you get your feelings hurt because your personal preference is not preferred, then you got some other problems. If you think you're superior because you have a high end PC, then you also got some other issues... If you like consoles better than PC, then who cares what other people say.




pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
When I started University I kind of gave up on console gaming for a while. My money was better spent on liquer and whores. But I did have a good computer so I picked up Tomb Raider. It was awesome. Then I played it on my residence neighbor's Playstation. I was blown away by how much better it was. Not so much the game itself, but just so much easier and smoother and better to play. PC's have come a long way since then, but I still much prefer console gaming. Any power benifits on my PC are offset by the ease of play, the control options, the big TV and surround sound and the comfort of my couch that I enjoy on a console. I mostly only PC game for things such as RTS or MMO's.

Spoken like a true console gamer . As a PC gamer, I can do all of what you mentioned easily and way more. This is why it's stupid to say consoles>PC because of this and that, when PC can do everything consoles can and then some. At least it seems stupid when you know it can be done, and are doing it yourself.

There are bad control scemes for PC games just like there are horrid control scemes for the console. It just depends on how much the developer is willing to invest in optimizing the game for each platform.

Each have their strengths and weaknesses. The gaming PC enthuist will almost always have a rig that can out shine a  console in terms of shere power, but most game for the PC are made to run normally on a rig that is three years old on the mid-range setting.

If done correctly, which few third party developers are willing to do today. A console game can perform better then games on most computer set-ups, with the exception of the high-end rigs. This can only be found usually in first party games.



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pezus said:
BlkPaladin said:
pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
When I started University I kind of gave up on console gaming for a while. My money was better spent on liquer and whores. But I did have a good computer so I picked up Tomb Raider. It was awesome. Then I played it on my residence neighbor's Playstation. I was blown away by how much better it was. Not so much the game itself, but just so much easier and smoother and better to play. PC's have come a long way since then, but I still much prefer console gaming. Any power benifits on my PC are offset by the ease of play, the control options, the big TV and surround sound and the comfort of my couch that I enjoy on a console. I mostly only PC game for things such as RTS or MMO's.

Spoken like a true console gamer . As a PC gamer, I can do all of what you mentioned easily and way more. This is why it's stupid to say consoles>PC because of this and that, when PC can do everything consoles can and then some. At least it seems stupid when you know it can be done, and are doing it yourself.

There are bad control scemes for PC games just like there are horrid control scemes for the console. It just depends on how much the developer is willing to invest in optimizing the game for each platform.

Each have their strengths and weaknesses. The gaming PC enthuist will almost always have a rig that can out shine a  console in terms of shere power, but most game for the PC are made to run normally on a rig that is three years old on the mid-range setting.

If done correctly, which few third party developers are willing to do today. A console game can perform better then games on most computer set-ups, with the exception of the high-end rigs. This can only be found usually in first party games.

You don't see PC "elitists" with set-ups like most people. Jaywood is wondering why PC gamers, and probably the more hardcore gamers, bash console gaming. In that regard, better performance couldn't be further from the truth. You're stuck with what you get on consoles, like the horrid ME3 PS3 port that I can't even force myself to play despite getting it free.

As I said third parties seldom optimize to the point they use to, with the rush to get the product to the market, and with the current batch of consoles updates are now possible, which further encourages messy porting/optimizations, which dimish the advantages that console gaming has. And as said the only place you see the proformance benefits from having a fixed platform is from the first parties.



I can definitely agree with this, PC will have the better looking multiplats but developers will rarely take advantage of the hardware available on high end rigs because of those limitations on console, reduce the console limitations and PC games improve. Simple enough.



Ah this thread, it's been getting posted a lot lately. It's like every other month now.



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pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
When I started University I kind of gave up on console gaming for a while. My money was better spent on liquer and whores. But I did have a good computer so I picked up Tomb Raider. It was awesome. Then I played it on my residence neighbor's Playstation. I was blown away by how much better it was. Not so much the game itself, but just so much easier and smoother and better to play. PC's have come a long way since then, but I still much prefer console gaming. Any power benifits on my PC are offset by the ease of play, the control options, the big TV and surround sound and the comfort of my couch that I enjoy on a console. I mostly only PC game for things such as RTS or MMO's.

Spoken like a true console gamer . As a PC gamer, I can do all of what you mentioned easily and way more. This is why it's stupid to say consoles>PC because of this and that, when PC can do everything consoles can and then some. At least it seems stupid when you know it can be done, and are doing it yourself.

So you can pop into Wal-Mart (or whatever you have in Iceland), pick up the latest COD, open it up, pop it in and you and your friend can grab a couple controllers as default and be shooting people from around the world in about 3 minutes?



Although I prefer playing single player games on PC, I prefer multiplayer games on consoles because most (if not all but 2) are on consoles.  It's hard to find PC buddies (real friends that you actually hang out with and not random people you met online) to play online. 

There is a dearth of PC friends and if you have lots of true friends that play exclusively on PC, that speaks volume about yourself too.......