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TheWPCTraveler said:
Kerotan said:
Nier and super robot wars beasting.

And yeah the mandatory pre order for Switch is obviously inflating it's numbers. If everyone buying a ps4 everyday in Comg had to pre order a ps4 title it would obviously have higher numbers too.

Have you ever seen someone pre-order a console without pre-ordering a game along with it?

Just curious.

That's not the case though. People have to preorder one of two options, not just any game. The two options are the most popular ofc. But anyone who preordered DQ Heroes, has also had to preorder Zelda or 1,2 Switch.

Edit: to be clear, I'm not completely agreeing with Kerotan. Just that I wouldn't expect an amazing ratio at COMG.



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think-man said:
Kresnik said:
Weekly:

1 3DS Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 Professional 334 pt
2 PS4 Nio 184 pt
3 PS4 Four Goddesses Online CYBER DIMENSION NEPTUNE (Normal Edition) 67 pt
4 PS4 Four goddesses online CYBER DIMENSION NEPTUNE ROYAL EDITION 57 pt
5 3DS Pocket Monsters Moon 20 pt
6 PS4 Biohazard 7 Resident Evil Grotesque Ver. 17 pt
7 3DS Pocket Monsters 17 pt
8 3DS Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS 16 pts
9 3DS Pochi! Yoshi wool world 15 pt
10 3DS animal cross animal amiibo + 9 pt
11 PS4 Resident Evil 6 7 pt
12 3DS Mario Kart 7 7 pt
13 3DS Yokai Watch 3 Sukiyaki 7 pt
14 WiiU MINECRAFT: Wii U EDITION 6 pt
15 PS4 Rainbow Sixty 6 pt
16 3DS Yokai Watch 3 Sushi 6 pt
17 WiiU Super Brawl Smash Brothers for WiiU 5 pt
18 Vita Call of Duty Black Opus Dei Classified (Bargain Edition) 5 pt
19 PS 4 Resident Evil Resident Evil 5 pt
20 PS4 GRAVITY DAZE 2 Initial limited edition 5 pt

What happened with nioh lol wasn't it predicted to sell around 35k? Wouldn't this be the worst ratio ever then lol

In case it gets brought up, preorder expectations =/= personal predictions.



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uran10 said:
horuhe said:

That amount of sarcasm reached god-tier levels, Hiska. lol

Chartz being Chartz, btw.

You could simply replace charts with one user and you'd be 100% accurate.

I'm just really looking forward to first week numbers.

Who's the one user?  

 

Personally looking forward to seeing sales in the coming years rather then launch which won't tell us much overall.  See the Wii U as case in point. 



Kerotan said:
uran10 said:

You could simply replace charts with one user and you'd be 100% accurate.

I'm just really looking forward to first week numbers.

Who's the one user?  

 

Personally looking forward to seeing sales in the coming years rather then launch which won't tell us much overall.  See the Wii U as case in point. 

You should compare it to the 3DS or Vita. Since you think its a handheld. 



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think-man said:
Kresnik said:
Weekly:

1 3DS Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 Professional 334 pt
2 PS4 Nio 184 pt
3 PS4 Four Goddesses Online CYBER DIMENSION NEPTUNE (Normal Edition) 67 pt
4 PS4 Four goddesses online CYBER DIMENSION NEPTUNE ROYAL EDITION 57 pt
5 3DS Pocket Monsters Moon 20 pt
6 PS4 Biohazard 7 Resident Evil Grotesque Ver. 17 pt
7 3DS Pocket Monsters 17 pt
8 3DS Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS 16 pts
9 3DS Pochi! Yoshi wool world 15 pt
10 3DS animal cross animal amiibo + 9 pt
11 PS4 Resident Evil 6 7 pt
12 3DS Mario Kart 7 7 pt
13 3DS Yokai Watch 3 Sukiyaki 7 pt
14 WiiU MINECRAFT: Wii U EDITION 6 pt
15 PS4 Rainbow Sixty 6 pt
16 3DS Yokai Watch 3 Sushi 6 pt
17 WiiU Super Brawl Smash Brothers for WiiU 5 pt
18 Vita Call of Duty Black Opus Dei Classified (Bargain Edition) 5 pt
19 PS 4 Resident Evil Resident Evil 5 pt
20 PS4 GRAVITY DAZE 2 Initial limited edition 5 pt

What happened with nioh lol wasn't it predicted to sell around 35k? Wouldn't this be the worst ratio ever then lol

Nioh is selling better than expected, some of us said it a few times already. The 35k prediction (from YSO) was based on pre-orders and pre-launch hype. Since word of mouth and sales rised up after launch this prediction will be missed by far. YSO already predicted 25k for second week, they adjusted up the numbers.

Comg has the game almost sold out, according to their Twitter. Next shipment will arrive tomorrow 14th.

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Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

Who's the one user?  

 

Personally looking forward to seeing sales in the coming years rather then launch which won't tell us much overall.  See the Wii U as case in point. 

You should compare it to the 3DS or Vita. Since you think its a handheld. 

Oh don't worry I will.  I was just using the Wii U to point out a console can have a fantastic launch but it doesn't guarantee a successful gen.  

 

I'll be comparing it to the 3DS, so to keep the same level of success gen over gen I feel the Switch needs to sell 70m+ which the 3DS looks set to do. Tough ask in today's current handheld market. 



Possibly a bit OT, but wanted to ask to horuhe and hiska-kun: since boxes for USFII have started appearing in retail stores, and given how they seem to look final (at least the back), doesn't that mean that the game is releasing soon enough (like, April)?



Kerotan said:
Jranation said:

You should compare it to the 3DS or Vita. Since you think its a handheld. 

Oh don't worry I will.  I was just using the Wii U to point out a console can have a fantastic launch but it doesn't guarantee a successful gen.  

 

I'll be comparing it to the 3DS, so to keep the same level of success gen over gen I feel the Switch needs to sell 70m+ which the 3DS looks set to do. Tough ask in today's current handheld market. 

70mil...... the handheld market is dying. Look at the difference between the DS to the 3DS, and the PSP to the Vita......... Is there something about the Switch that you see that can bring this downwards to an upwards? 



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Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

Oh don't worry I will.  I was just using the Wii U to point out a console can have a fantastic launch but it doesn't guarantee a successful gen.  

 

I'll be comparing it to the 3DS, so to keep the same level of success gen over gen I feel the Switch needs to sell 70m+ which the 3DS looks set to do. Tough ask in today's current handheld market. 

70mil...... the handheld market is dying. Look at the difference between the DS to the 3DS, and the PSP to the Vita......... Is there something about the Switch that you see that can bring this downwards to an upwards? 

The seventh gen was the very definition of anomolous.  We had 3 highly successful machines in the home console space, which has never happened, a non Nintendo handheld doing very well, which has never happened, and most importantly a growth gen on gen of a wopping ~180% from the GBA to the DS/PSP.  Imho, expecting subsequent gens to match thaf is ludicrous and I think in hind sight it is extremely obvious what happened:  A very large group of people not actually interested in dedicated gaming devices but rather in simple gaming experiences on the go bought in.  Now, however, that audience has moved to phones because, again, they were not looking for the substantial gaming options a dedicated handheld brings.  That was just their only or best option for a time.  The dedicated handheld consumers interested in just that: a dedicated handheld device, are still mostly here.  The 3DS is looking to land at 70million and the Vita at 16 million.  Thats 86 million.  Not an unhealthy number compared to the GBA and GB/GBC lines, especially when you consider how badly the early days of both were handled and how Sony just abandoned the Vita to die like less than 2 years in.  The decline from this point will likely be slow because the thing that kept it alive and mostly well this gen is still true: mobile devices thoroughly suck for serious gaming for numerous reasons.

It will be interesting though to see how the Switch swings this.  The Switch is, afterall, not a pure handheld.  In fact, if I were to make a console-to-handheld sliding scale, I would put it more to the console side due to numerous design decisions, decisions that negatively impact its viability as a handheld in practical terms.  We'll just have to see if practical terms=market terms.



Jranation said:
Kerotan said:

Oh don't worry I will.  I was just using the Wii U to point out a console can have a fantastic launch but it doesn't guarantee a successful gen.  

 

I'll be comparing it to the 3DS, so to keep the same level of success gen over gen I feel the Switch needs to sell 70m+ which the 3DS looks set to do. Tough ask in today's current handheld market. 

70mil...... the handheld market is dying. Look at the difference between the DS to the 3DS, and the PSP to the Vita......... Is there something about the Switch that you see that can bring this downwards to an upwards? 

Do I think Switch will continue the decline?  Yes I do.

 

Do I think it has no chance?  No I don't.  

 

One thing it has going is a unified library.  So it could potentially get a lot more games then the 3DS.  Potentially. 

 

Just remember,  people claimed the home console market was dead pre ps4/xb1 launch mainly because the Wii U bombed.  They claimed the pc was taking over.  

 

4 years later and the ps4 is the fastest selling Playstation console ever.  Sony pulled it off so I'm not counting Nintendo out.  Sony had and 85m target to beat last gen and now the Switch has a 70m target.  Will it do it?  See you in 5/6 years!