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Butcher2709 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
Good day for Persona

Disappoint for Pokémon, after all is a Saturday...

People are busy playing Pokemon Go, no time to make preorders :p

I wonder if there are game stores that are still open at midnight XD 

 



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Kresnik said:
Kerotan said:

Say capcom released a monster hunter heroes,  monster hunter builders and a much upgraded MH5 port built for the ps4 I think they'd do similar numbers to the existing dragon quest games on ps4. 

I don't understand this comparison.  Spinoffs are a different kettle of fish than main games - I'm sure DQ11 will do alright because RPG's are becoming abundant on PS4 (although they have the 3DS version to fall back on).  That doesn't mean a Monster Hunter mainline game would as well.

Besides, this is what I'm talking about:

13./00. [PS4] Toukiden: Kiwami (Koei Tecmo) {2015.04.23} (¥7.344) - 6.103 / NEW 

03./00. [PS4] God Eater 2: Rage Burst (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.02.19} (¥7.171) - 37.824 / NEW 
02./00. [PS4] God Eater: Resurrection (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.10.29} (¥6.663) - 25.700 / NEW 
06./00. [PS4] God Eater: Resurrection - Crossplay Pack & Animation Vol.1 (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.10.29} (¥10.778) - 16.281 / NEW 

Granted, Toukiden was a late port, but it doesn't look like a healthy market to me (42k opening week for the highest selling hunting game on the console so far).

I'm assuming Toukiden 2 on PS4 is going to put up similar numbers to GE2 on PS4, which is fine, but they're cratering the Vita version by making it open world and focusing all marketing on the PS4 version.  And the handheld versions of the previous games sold very well: Toukiden Age of Demons shipped 470k in Japan/Asia on Vita/PSP while Kiwami shipped 200k.

So basically they're gambling on the west, which seems like an odd move to make when Kiwami under-performed on both Vita & PS4 (tweet has been deleted, it was Koei Tecmo Europe's manager that said this edit: nvm, found it here) and the Steam figures are pretty abysmal.

I can understand why they're doing this - Vita isn't going to be around forever and won't be getting a replacement, so they're trying to migrate the IP somewhere else.  But I honestly feel they'd be better served making the most of the Vita audience while it's still around and then using these resources to make a different game that will appeal to console gamers (like they're doing with Nioh), rather than trying to make Toukiden something it's not.

Can't disagree with that at all.  

 

All we can do is wait and see what % of the sales the ps4 gets and what it's opening sales are.  



Kresnik said:
Kerotan said:

 

 

Its like you said, some games dont work well (i mean saleswise) with HC vs HH. I dont get why some still think MH5 (unless its similar to DQ11) would be green lit with ps4 with how well it does on HH. Vita/NX would be the logical choice here. Its the same way people ask for Pokemon on HC, its not gonna sell nowhere near close :-/



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OttoniBastos said:
I have the feeling that Persona may end up performing closer to FF15 in japan than people tought.

Thats horrible and wonderful at the same time



Jranation said:
FFXV and that Tales game sure slayed in the weekend!!!!

Was expecting more for all the games during a Saturday..........

Why do you want FFXV and ToB underperform? Seriously you are the only one making ironic mentions eveyrtime these games fail to get points. It would be one thing to comment but the way you talk seems like you are happy these two games aren't doing so hot... On a second thought, you are doing that for every Playstation game...

Maybe because these games aren't coming on a Nintendo system? Please try to leave your company preference out of this thread. We don't need system wars here.



tbone51 said:
Kresnik said:

 

Its like you said, some games dont work well (i mean saleswise) with HC vs HH. I dont get why some still think MH5 (unless its similar to DQ11) would be green lit with ps4 with how well it does on HH. Vita/NX would be the logical choice here. Its the same way people ask for Pokemon on HC, its not gonna sell nowhere near close :-/

Who said it would sell close?  Dragon Quest Heroes 1/2, builders and DQ11 would all sell well on 3DS yet we still get a ps4 sku for them all.  

 

MH5 would definitely sell over a million WW on the ps4 and could be a profitable sku.  Nobody says it would do better.  



MH5 on PS4 could easily hit 2million WW. And of course there would be a portable SKU for selling 4million in Japan.



Man, I remember after how successful the original Toukiden was I thought the second game would be huge. Fast forward 3 years and it's sad what they decided to do with the IP.



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