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EricFabian said:
fedfed said:
Can Yokay open higher than Pokemon?


Of course not

Don't be so sure. It's got 1 million FW pretty locked up. It'll compete with B/W2.



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outlawauron said:
EricFabian said:
fedfed said:
Can Yokay open higher than Pokemon?


Of course not

Don't be so sure. It's got 1 million FW pretty locked up. It'll compete with B/W2.



Its not 1mil locked. Not saying it wont cuz im hoping it gets there FW (major accomplishment). Also he's obviously talking about the mainline gens, not third installments, but it definitely can compete with them. How much did they do anyway?

Edit: Thats asking for alot, Pokemon BW2 opened with 1.5mil+ but with the other installments it might/will surpass them.

Pokemon Yellow   FW: 1.35mil    Life: 3.12mil

Pokemon Crstal    FW: 319k      Life 1.20mil

Pokemon Emerald  FW: 747k    Life: 2.05mil

Pokemon Platinum   FW: 963k  -  Life: 2.69mil

Pokemon BW2      FW: 1.5mil      Life 3.10mil

I have a feeling YW2 is going to pull a pokemon Gold/Silver in terms of sales, but with maybe up to 2.5mil-3mil sales lifetime.



tbone51 said:
outlawauron said:
EricFabian said:
fedfed said:
Can Yokay open higher than Pokemon?


Of course not

Don't be so sure. It's got 1 million FW pretty locked up. It'll compete with B/W2.



Its not 1mil locked. Not saying it wont cuz im hoping it gets there FW (major accomplishment). Also he's obviously talking about the mainline gens, not third installments, but it definitely can compete with them. How much did they do anyway?

B/W2 is definitely a main Pokemon and it did 1.5 million FW. 



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outlawauron said:
tbone51 said:
outlawauron said:
EricFabian said:
fedfed said:

B/W2 is definitely a main Pokemon and it did 1.5 million FW. 



No its not a main, just cuz it opened high in japan doesn't make it a main game. There are 6 main games, BW2 would be counted with the third installments (despite it having a number for a sequel).

Mainline                       Third Installment       Remake

Pokemon Blue/Red     +     Yellow     +     FireRed/Leafgreen

Pokemon Gold/Silver  +    Crstal       +    HeartGold/SoulSilver

Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire + Emerald +   OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire

Pokemon Diamond/Pearl + Platinum

Pokemon Black/White  + Black2/White2

Pokemon XY                  + Pokemon Z (or Pokemon X2/Y2)



tbone51 said:
outlawauron said:

B/W2 is definitely a main Pokemon and it did 1.5 million FW. 


No its not a main, just cuz it opened high in japan doesn't make it a main game. There are 6 main games, BW2 would be counted with the third installments (despite it having a number for a sequel).

Mainline                       Third Installment       Remake

Pokemon Blue/Red     +     Yellow     +     FireRed/Leafgreen

Pokemon Gold/Silver  +    Crstal       +    HeartGold/SoulSilver

Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire + Emerald +   OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire

Pokemon Diamond/Pearl + Platinum

Pokemon Black/White  + Black2/White2

Pokemon XY                  + Pokemon Z (or Pokemon X2/Y2)

I completely disagree. Platinum is Diamond/Pearl 1.5 whereas B/W2 is an entirely new game and a full sequel. Platinum, Emerald, Yellow, are just their predecessors + additional content like how Capcom does Monster Hunter G.



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outlawauron said:
tbone51 said:
outlawauron said:

I completely disagree. Platinum is Diamond/Pearl 1.5 whereas B/W2 is an entirely new game and a full sequel. Platinum, Emerald, Yellow, are just their predecessors + additional content like how Capcom does Monster Hunter G.

BW2 was not an entirely new game, If anything the remakes were much more different than BW2 to the originals. Itw mch closer to the Third Installments despite being the first sequels. Its has the exact same pokemon and added older ones, no new pokemon, most of the same gym leaders, just a couple added locations, etc.

Its definitely not a mainline game. If anything it would be in its own category, but if it had to be in 1 it obviously would be wth the third installments. Mainline games are new generations, BW2 was not a new generation. It had by far the most differences in third installments (being a sequel) but that doesn't make it go with Pokemon New gen pairs :)

 

Edit: Actually these arguments bring me back deja vu. If anything Pokemon BW2 is in its own group. Definitely not a mainline game and its much closer to that of Third Installments, but its not the same. So we have Mainline Gen Pairs + Remakes + Third Installments + BW2 (which i guess would be same gen sequel? lol)



Kresnik said:

Some slightly better Freedom Wars comparisons that someone else provided:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=118885556&postcount=645

Freedom Wars - 440pt

God Eater 2 - 696pt [258,826]
Toukiden - 343pt [127,744]
Sword Arts Online - 339pt [136,736]
Soul Sacrifice - 192pt [105,863]

So using each of those games's pts:ratio Freedom Wars FW could look like:

  • 163,625 (GE2 ratio)
  • 163,869 (Toukiden ratio)
  • 177,474 (SAO ratio)
  • 242,602 (SS ratio)
So 160k should be a lock at this point.

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I think you'd better slow down there YW.