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ethomaz said:

WOW Did you guys never used any external cooling system for the consoles?

I used a lot in PS2 age... now for PS3 and Wii I didn't use but that because my room is really below the avg. temperature here (my girlfriend says my bedroom is so cold sometimes lol)... and I have a PS3 Slim model.

I think the consoles are made/projeted to temperatures like EU, US and Japan... I know these place have hot times too but for me it is cold yet lol lol lol... eg. I can't enter in the sea in Europe .

There is no need for many in US anyways to use one. Whether it is 70° F or 100° F outside, most people have air conditioning and their house will be 65-78° F depending on their personal preferences.



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the wiiu can do this it has even inflatable RAM up to 8GB and more with USB extension (it works in USB1.1 mode)

are some Nintendo fans so deluded to believe in this nonsense

edit: the wiiu is good system even without 3GHz CPU

edit2: neither 3GHz CPU nor western 3rd party support is crucial to WiiU success



Why do people keep saying 45W max for Wii U? The max power is 75W, with Nintendo saying average use would be about 45W. Since up until now the system has been drawing in the low 30's, it actually lends a bit of credence to the idea that the system has been underclocked to date, and with updates may have higher clocks and use more power. Not saying the specs quoted are true, but an increase is very possible.



ethomaz said:

fillet said:

Your original comment said it was not possible for a CPU to be clocked much lower than it's specified speed bin. Now you're saying it's not possible spefically for this CPU to be clocked at 3Ghz+. I'm not knowledgable to know if that's true or not but your previous post was incorrect regardless.

All desktop CPUs can run well under stock these days as can GPUs in small or large increments.

If you're only talking about the PowerPC CPUs, best you say that in the first place next time :)

I never said CPUs can't be clocked lower... this is make everytime by AMD/Intel to separete the models.... the CPU can run from 1Ghz to 4Ghz and they get and fix the clock in lower models and release it in high-end models (the CPU chip in most case is the same... so there are dual-core with 2Ghz to 4Ghz).

That not puting things like user change of clock (known as overclock).

I said the CPU in Wii U can't reach these clock without a change in the cooling system... and the CPU Arch used not reach these clock (3Ghz+).

That what I said by impossible.


Ahhh you did say that actually, I misread the last sentence. It didn't sound like you were referring to it from a thermal perspective.

Even so, the point remains that if they were underclocked to begin with and the thermal system isn't currently being taxed, which it wouldn't be as a CPU that can run at 3Ghz+, running at less than 1.5Ghz can often be passively cooled and the Wii-U isn't passively cooled, so basically we don't even know what the thermal limits of the current cooling system is.

 

So you're still wrong either way, although I see your sentiment where you're going with it, but you're making an assumption on an unknown to make make your statement that it couldn't handle it. Theoretically, it's possible it can, so to say "it can't", is wrong.

 

...And don't be so damn patronizing, I think everyone knows what "overclock" is lol.



twilight_link said:

the wiiu can do this it has even inflatable RAM up to 8GB and more with USB extension (it works in USB1.1 mode)

are some Nintendo fans so deluded to believe in this nonsense

edit: the wiiu is good system even without 3GHz CPU

edit2: neither 3GHz CPU nor western 3rd party support is crucial to WiiU success


The CPU probably isn't crucial but western 3rd Party support is very crucial to making the Wii U success. Nintendo can only produce so much software before they are taking a loss. 3rd party games driving sales are critical and western countries are the largest gaming markets. Failure to get 3rd party support will lead to another generation where Nintendo's rep takes a hit as the last two generations had 3rd parties abandon Nintendo's consoles in the back half or quarter making the system's launch windows practically barren. Some gamers have short memories but the loyal more spend crazed ones don't.

Isn't it possible to get a slight increase via CPU by changing the OS and how much it draws from the system in general to operate?



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VGKing said:
Fake.

This is such a ridiculous rumor I can't believe you even made a thread about it.

We know for a fact that an increase to 3.2 GHz is pretty much impossible (unless Nintendo did some weird black magic to the system). 

It is indeed possible to this (the PSP did it), but the increase will probably be to a max of 2.0 GHz, more than that will make the system overheat. Given that the system only uses 35W of the possible 45W then the extra buff can definitely be possible, in both the CPU and GPU, the numbers in article are the ones that don't make sense.



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ethomaz said:

WOW Did you guys never used any external cooling system for the consoles?

I used a lot in PS2 age... now for PS3 and Wii I didn't use but that because my room is really below the avg. temperature here (my girlfriend says my bedroom is so cold sometimes lol)... and I have a PS3 Slim model.

I think the consoles are made/projeted to temperatures like EU, US and Japan... I know these place have hot times too but for me it is cold yet lol lol lol... eg. I can't enter in the sea in Europe .


It's actually an illusion, the overheating problem in hot countries.

Something that has an inherrant design flaw like the original Xenon Xbox 360 will have RROD accelerated by a higher average ambient temperature - yes. But, an electronic device that isn't flawed will not suffer any bad consequences from being used in a "hot" country, think about it, let's say it's 20c in the UK which isn't exactly hot but not cold either. Then take a country like Brazil where you reside, where I imagine 30-35c is pretty much standard.

That's only 10-15c increase in ambient temperature which translates to a 10-15c increase in temperate of your electronic device.

In the case of a standard CPU, most are good for at least 85c running 100% load 24/7.

So, back to the electronic devices using those CPUs, the Xbox Slim has a cutoff point where the fans increase considerably when the CPU reaches 80c. The standard cooling system built into the Xbox Slim is capable of easily taking that temperature down to 55-60c with increased fan speed. I know this because I have an RGH Xbox 360 which monitors all temperatures of CPU/GPU/RAM/Ambient. At "auto", which means the Xbox 360 is controlling the temperature it will reach about 75c, if I control the fans myself and put them at say 65%, that temp goes down to 55c-57c.

This means that the built in cooling system is easily capable of keeping an Xbox Slim adequately cooled anywhere in the world.

I imagine that the PS3 cooling system is equally as adept, since the PS3 slim fan noise has a massive variation in noise output.

 

:)



Triple the CPU Speed and getting 60% more out of the GPU is way too much to be believable. Since the numbers are insane I think the guy has no clue about what he is talking.

This is just too big of a jump..



ethomaz said:

Zero999 said:

i don't know if the rumour is true or not, but you can't say that if you don't know what the cooling system can do. certainly, wii u may have been built to handle those clock speeds in the first place.

I know... the Wii U get hot here and the cooler can't handle that... I can't see a big increase of clock working with this cooler... maybe 1.6Ghz it can handle.


Not true, see above. As usual you're making suppositions and statements based on guess work and unknowns. It's very counterproductive in a forum environment doing that because we have to spend all day discussing subjective stuff backwards and forwards.



NoirSon said:
twilight_link said:

the wiiu can do this it has even inflatable RAM up to 8GB and more with USB extension (it works in USB1.1 mode)

are some Nintendo fans so deluded to believe in this nonsense

edit: the wiiu is good system even without 3GHz CPU

edit2: neither 3GHz CPU nor western 3rd party support is crucial to WiiU success


The CPU probably isn't crucial but western 3rd Party support is very crucial to making the Wii U success. Nintendo can only produce so much software before they are taking a loss. 3rd party games driving sales are critical and western countries are the largest gaming markets. Failure to get 3rd party support will lead to another generation where Nintendo's rep takes a hit as the last two generations had 3rd parties abandon Nintendo's consoles in the back half or quarter making the system's launch windows practically barren. Some gamers have short memories but the loyal more spend crazed ones don't.

Isn't it possible to get a slight increase via CPU by changing the OS and how much it draws from the system in general to operate?

it is not crucial for Nintendo success and never was, it is certainly crucial for MS and Sony as was for Sega but is not crucial for Nintendo, Gamecube was not failure because 3rd parties failed to support the platform it was failure because Nintendo software released was either polarizing, unappealing and rushed.

Prove me wrong and show me single Nintendo platform that was successful because of western 3rd party support, the software drought is certainly problem plaguing Nintendo for generations but it can't be resolved by appealing to CoD and GTA demographics.

frequency of CPU and GPU can be certainly slightly increased BUT not up to 3GHz and certainly this is not the reason behind speeding up of OS